Liberal Ideology!?!?, page 1
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reply posted on 5-12-2003 @ 09:53 AM by Colonel
Originally posted by joehayner
I'd just like to ask a question. (mostly for colonel) Do you believe in liberal Ideology(special interest programs, PC, racial/sexual equality, generally raising taxes) or do you just follow the dems because you hate republicans.(evil money-grubbing blood-sucking oil-mongering satanists)

Are you looking for a less corrupt government, or are you looking to follow them because you like their ideals.

My Ideals happen to lie just right of center, having a conservative bias on a few issues.(guns, Capital punishment, PC, Special interests) I do, however, agree with the dems on Abortion issues, excluding partial birth, and on racial equality issues. I don't go around calling people baby killer or racist/sexist.(unless they have killed baby, or have been racist/sexist to an extreme) I believe people should be able to do with their money as they wish. I don't want my money going to crack addicts, or welfare.

What do you believe?(try not to turn this into a 'repugnant' flaming party)


I hate republicans for one. They are, in fact, evil.

I follow the Dems because I do believe in the liberal ideology. I believe that our society has progressed to where it is BECAUSE of liberal ideology, particularly with racial/sexual equality, worker's rights, unionization and the like.

In fact, the librealism can only move this country forward while conservatism brings it back, regresses the country into more barbaric evil times.

I believe that government's purpose is not only to "protect the border" but to help the less fortunate in society b/c not all of us have the same opportunities to achieve the American dream. I believe that the governement should support the majority while safeguarding the rights of the minorities.



reply posted on 5-12-2003 @ 11:17 AM by joehayner
First off, thanks for posting Colonel. I was afraid I'd never get into a civil discussion with you.
(not totally your fault)


I hate republicans for one. They are, in fact, evil.

I agree in cases of extreme conservatism. The same goes for extreme liberalism.(though I don't really like the idea of liberalism at all) I do not, however, believe that I am evil.(I don't even believe in evil)


I follow the Dems because I do believe in the liberal ideology. I believe that our society has progressed to where it is BECAUSE of liberal ideology, particularly with racial/sexual equality, worker's rights, unionization and the like.

I agree that America has progressed because of some liberal Ideology. The racial/sexual equality was a very good Idea. I am sad that some of the conservatives opposed legislation to make things equal. I think progressivism played a big role in shaping America. Things can go too far though.

I don't want to see a country where one race or sex is favored or has it easier. This includes people of a different color than white, and women. In the military, for example, Women do not have the same physical standars as males. I do not believe women are always physically weaker than males, there are some who could probably kick my ass.

Then there are the people who play the race card to get out of things, or to purposfully hurt others. People that happen to be white have to be extra careful about what they say, so as not to be interpreted as racist. It happens all the time, costing most people their reputation and dignity.


In fact, the librealism can only move this country forward while conservatism brings it back, regresses the country into more barbaric evil times.

I don't agree that conservatism moves the country backward. I do agree that, about 150 years ago, people were pretty wrong. They did NOT treat everyone equally. I think a healthy mix of conservatism and liberalism could help bring this country forward. They should be trying to comprimise instead of dividing the country in half. That's why I think that everyone in the executive office should run on a seperate ticket. The president and vice president, for example, should be able to cooperate even if they are of different parties. But that will never happen because both parties are too afraid of losing control and having the other one snap everything away from them.


I believe that government's purpose is not only to "protect the border" but to help the less fortunate in society b/c not all of us have the same opportunities to achieve the American dream. I believe that the governement should support the majority while safeguarding the rights of the minorities.

I definatly agree that they should do more than protect the border. They've got to keep things running. They are the keystone to the pyramid that is America.

Not everyone has the same opportunities to achieve the American dream, true, some must try harder. Take me for example, I have been raised in a very poor area. The place is covered with farmers, mechanics, and factory workers, occupations that I really don't want.(nor do they bring in much money) I would much rather have a job concerning computers(software). I don't see much of a chance for me to achieve that dream, but I will try my best. My parents cannot help me, because the have enough financial trouble themselves.(they make a combined total of about $35,000 to $40,000 a year) I must try to achieve my dreams on my own, difficult but do-able. I just have to try harder.

The government should definatly safgaurd the rights of the minority. They are the loyal opposition. Without them, America would be a brainwashed nation.(like isn't already, but from TV, drugs, hollywood) We would just follow orders.

Am I wrong to think this way?
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