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reply posted on 22-12-2006 @ 11:12 PM by JackJuice



Originally posted by mrwupy

If your electronics are not turned on at the time, they will be safe. If they are on, their toast.

[edit on 22-12-2006 by mrwupy]


From my understanding your correct, the problem is however that most electronics dont actually shut off when you turn them off. Like most desktop computers there is no real physical off switch, the computer even though off is still on and drawing a small amount of power and you really only have to fry a few minor components to kill the whole system. The same goes with most electronics. Also if do have a device unplugged, if the emp is strong enough, you could get arking across switches or plugs that could fry your stuff. I personally am unaware of the strength of EMP that a nuke gives off or whether or how far it could charge an ark but it is possible.


The best thing you could do is take your vital devices, radio and/or geiger counter, and remove all batteries. Then store the device in a low static cool evironment. Surround with a grounded metal cabnit if possible.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 02:11 AM by HimWhoHathAnEar




what about the body and the air, any suggestions?



EMP, as stated before, probably will not effect either. However, off topic for a sec, potassium iodide tablets will fill your thyroid so that radioactive iodide cannot get into it. Sheltering in place is good IF you can put alot of density (dirt/concrete) between you and the outside world. Radioactivity will fall off rapidly in most circumstances.

ps Cobalt Nukes render most options useless



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 08:39 AM by angryamerican



Originally posted by mrwupy
I read the above mentioned article because something was bugging me. I found this in it.


Protecting electrical equipment is simple if it can be unplugged from AC outlets, phone systems, or long antennas.




True to a point. If you are close enough to the origin of the pulse and the pulse is strong enough it is going to charge the item in question and fry it. EMP traveles thru air as well as power lines


If your electronics are not turned on at the time, they will be safe. If they are on, their toast.


See above


I admit my knowledge on the subject is limited, thats why i'm here, I want to learn.


I cant baleave how much ive learned in just the short time The ATS survival forums has been operating. I thought I had a good handle on it before but now ive added to my knowledge bank ten fold.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 01:13 PM by apc


Best way to imagine what an EMP will do to anything capable of receiving the radiation: put metal in a microwave. In a nuclear EMP, uwave discharge is exactly what is happening.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 02:04 PM by angryamerican


I worry about non nuclear EMP more then nuclear. It doesnt take rocket science to create an non nuclear EMP bomb. Something say the size of a lear jet if detonated at the right height could black out several states.
Not sure qich site I saw this on I'll have to see if I can find it again. They were saying that if there was three 747 with non nuclear EMP bombs built into the interior detonated over the east coast west coast and middle america at the same time it would black out all the US alot of canada and alot of mexico.
Lets face it nuclear bombs are hard to get ahold of but convential explosives and wire and batteries are easy. I think if were ever hit with EMP it would be from a non nuclear source.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 04:23 PM by apc


Other than nuclear really the only other kind is massive EM field collapse... you generate a very large intense electromagnetic field to produce the desired discharge caused by current induced when the field collapses around conductors. No explosion.

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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 05:19 PM by joshtattoos


You dont need electronics to survive. Ha Ha
EMP will destroy diodes. Maybe encase your electronics in a grounded steel box?



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 07:49 PM by angryamerican


Sorry APC but there is such a thing as the non nuclear EMP bomb
www.milnet.com...
science.howstuffworks.com...

And we did infact use Non nuclear EMP bombs in Iraq. It is a very real threat.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 08:06 PM by apc


Ah thanks I was unaware of that line of development. However it uses the same concept I just described.


A one time explosive device provides kinetic energy required to rapidly build an electromagnetic field through electromagnetic induction rather than through the nuclear chemistry found in a nuclear explosion.

Tesla showed us that while the creation and expansion of electromagnetic fields is neat and all, what happens when they collapse is the most interesting.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 09:34 PM by angryamerican


Apc Its pretty scary don't you think? Ime sure you will dig into it more. When you do Ime guessing that you will see what I see. that this is a much bigger threat then biological or chemical. A few briefcase size bombs exploded in certain important areas could devastate this country's financial, military, and power generating infrastructure. That to most Americans is the real terrorist threat.



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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 10:13 PM by bsbray11

Poor Man's EMP Safebox

If you want to safekeep anything stored electronically, on flash drives or whatever, or any electronics in general, you can take the risky parts out of a mircrowave (ie the parts that actually emit microwaves), and store whatever inside of the microwave, wrapped in tin foil. Even better if buried underground, or if the microwave itself is insulated in general.

Microwave ovens are built so that the microwaves inside have a hard time escaping, so I'm guessing whatever material is used, also gives EMP's a hard time getting in.



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reply posted on 24-12-2006 @ 06:47 PM by Siren



Minor changes in design, incorrect maintenance procedures, poorly fitting parts, loose debris, moisture, and ordinary dirt can all cause elaborate EMP protections to be totally circumvented. It can be expected that a single high yield, high altitude explosion over an industrialized area would cause massive disruption for an indeterminable period, and would cause huge economic damages (all those damaged chips add up).


nuclearweaponarchive.org...

My research led me to this website which sums up the different scenarios. To be brief, several factors would determine the outcome and the degree of damage. I found this most informative, but, disturbing.



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