KNOW YOUR EXECUTIVE ORDERS

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posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 04:42 PM
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HOLY S#IT !!

Makes you think that John Titor guy was telling the truth
But seriously this looks pretty bad if u live in the US, i'm now looking for somthing similar in the UK.

Seems if the president decides they canswitch off your power/water, block all roads, control public transport (armed "guards") or come and take you house and business and land, comendeer your car, take control of your money, make you work in some kind of labour gang, they can decide punishments and carry them out under their own authourity and if you don't like and resist they can shoot you for "obstructing the government" or whatever!!

To All Americans - DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS !!

"Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it."

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic.

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and granted the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Many of the figures in the Iran-Contra scandal were part of this emergency contingent, including Marine Colonel Oliver North.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."

The Violent Crime Control Act of 1991 provides additional powers to the President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution and Constitutional rights of Americans during a "drug crisis". It provides for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military control of populated areas.

When the Constitution of the United States was framed it placed the exclusive legislative authority in the hands of Congress and with the President. Article I, Section 1 of the United States Constitution is concise in its language, "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." That is no longer true. The Bill of Rights protected Americans against loss of freedoms. That is no longer true. The Constitution provided for a balanced separation of powers. That is no longer applicable.

Perhaps it can be summed up succinctly in the words of conservative activist Howard J. Ruff. "Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it."

[Edited on 18-11-2003 by Kobyoshimaru]




posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 04:46 PM
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Interesting. When/if was this stuff passed/signed?



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 04:48 PM
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This stinks of Alex Jones.

If you can provide some dates and proof i'll be quite happy to accept it and discuss it normally.



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 04:52 PM
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Scary, neh? the game Deus Ex (my namesake...) made light of this- the president is deposed, a state of emergency establish and the head of FEMA takes over. Or so it is plotted...

Case in point- theoretically, if a nuclear device were to be detonated on American soil, the president assasinated in a time of war (ei now) then FEMA could take over. The worst part is that they have the legal powers to make Nazi Germany look like a playground with a 7 year old bully.

Query: does anyone who who the head of FEMA is at the moment, as well as his current advisors?

DE



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 04:53 PM
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Koby,

you said:

"Perhaps it can be summed up succinctly in the words of conservative activist Howard J. Ruff. "Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it."

Why hasn't it happened yet?

It can happen anytime.

The reality is that we have never been free, what makes anyone think that we have been?



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Kobyoshimaru
* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.


So a question comes to mind..

If a president instates an executive order, does that mean the US government can implement it at it's own discretion?

Know what I am asking?...does it make it a law to be followed, or is it just a suggestion.

In reference to the quoted portion ...I wonder if that means this executive order would be implemented...again!

Executive Order 11110


AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289
AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF
CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the
United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is
hereby further amended -
(a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following
subparagraph (j):
"(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section
43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue
silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver
dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding
silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver
certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver
currency for their redemption," and
(b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.
SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done,
or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced
in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such
liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not
been made.
JOHN F. KENNEDY
THE WHITE HOUSE,
June 4, 1963
Executive Order 11110 is still valid. According to Title 3, United States
Code, Section 301 dated January 26, 1998




posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 05:05 PM
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Heres the actual orders with the date and president at the time, like all this stuff they are dressed up in langauge as to make them hard to understand. Read between the lines, and remember eventualy the # will hit the fan and everyone who is rich and has power will be out to save their own skin, ordinary people will be expendable.


Heres some
change the number at the end of the URL for more.

www.lib.umich.edu...

www.lib.umich.edu...

www.lib.umich.edu...

www.lib.umich.edu...

www.lib.umich.edu...

www.lib.umich.edu...

www.lib.umich.edu...

[Edited on 18-11-2003 by Kobyoshimaru]



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by DeusEx
Scary, neh? the game Deus Ex (my namesake...) made light of this- the president is deposed, a state of emergency establish and the head of FEMA takes over. Or so it is plotted...

Case in point- theoretically, if a nuclear device were to be detonated on American soil, the president assasinated in a time of war (ei now) then FEMA could take over. The worst part is that they have the legal powers to make Nazi Germany look like a playground with a 7 year old bully.

Query: does anyone who who the head of FEMA is at the moment, as well as his current advisors?

DE


FEMA Director Joe M. Allbaugh
Heres some pics of Bush Visiting

Washington, DC, October 1, 2001 -- President Bush enters the Emergency Support Team (EST) Operations Center at FEMA headquarters. The President came to thank FEMA staff for their work in supporting operations at the crash sites in New York City and at the Pentagon.


Washington, DC, October 1, 2001 -- FEMA Director Joe M. Allbaugh introduces the President of the United States before his address to FEMA employees, thanking them for their ongoing work in the recovery operations following the terrorist attacks.



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 05:39 PM
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Hmm..time to get me a serious gun I suppose...aye...this isn't a good thing. I have played DeusEx (A good game)..and media/games/movies, whatever you call it, often give hints of this sort of thing. I have seen it often, and if you read between the lines, you can get a message out of it sometimes. Keep your guard up guys and gals, that all I have to say.

-wD



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Nerdling
This stinks of Alex Jones.

If you can provide some dates and proof i'll be quite happy to accept it and discuss it normally.

The rest of the original order:
se1.com...

Executive Order 11000
ASSIGNING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FUNCTIONS
TO THE SECRETARY OF LABOR
www.lib.umich.edu...
SECTION 1. Scope. The Secretary of Labor (hereinafter referred to as the Secretary) shall prepare national emergency plans and develop preparedness programs covering civilian manpower mobilization, more effective utilization of limited manpower resources including specialized personnel, wage and salary stabilization, worker incentives and protection, manpower resources and requirements, skill development and training, research, labor-management relations, and critical occupations. These plans and programs shall be designed to develop a state of readiness in these areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.

SEC. 5. Emergency Actions. Nothing in this order shall be construed as conferring authority under Title III of the Federal Civil Defense Act of 1950, as amended, or otherwise, to put into effect any emergency plan, procedure, policy, program or course of action prepared or developed pursuant to this order. Such authority is reserved to the President.

SEC. 7. Prior Actions. To the extent of any inconsistency between the provisions of any prior order and the provisions of this order, the latter shall control. Emergency Preparedness Order No. 8 (heretofore issued by the Director, Office of Civil and Defense Mobilization) (26 F.R. 660-661), is hereby revoked.

Here is a link to the rest of the executive orders pertaining to "national security":
216.239.57.104...:0GxSiT9dHoMJ:www.disastercenter.com/laworder/laworder.htm+%22executive+order+11000%22+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

This threat is indeed very real & should scare the # out of anyone wanting to live in a free society. Investigate this for yourself. You owe it to yourself and your family to know what IS coming.



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 06:01 PM
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Creepy. If Bush was slightly more competent at...well, life, I might consider the director of FEMA a real threat. I guess we'll have to wait for the next president (or at least this one to be killed off) to be enslaved. *shrugs*

DE



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Nerdling
This stinks of Alex Jones.

If you can provide some dates and proof i'll be quite happy to accept it and discuss it normally.


Links are rarely ever needed for executive orders...they can be found at most government websites, particularly

www.whitehouse.gov


although the new ones are not always published until the next president takes office.



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 08:08 PM
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Isn't it great that they write these executive orders in a way that one has to be a specialist in law to understand what the hell they are trying to say? Anyway, I noticed that the text within most of these executive orders (the old ones) are not even viewable on the archives.gov website. I don't think the writers of our constitution wanted it's predescessors to go crazy with laws of all sorts that just confuse and divert the attention of its citizens from the truth... IMO



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 09:06 PM
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Executive order 11110 is actually a good thing,
but is largely ignored by everyone, including the government.

Kennedy, enacted this, creating the Silver Certificate and a currency backed by something of value,
and it would have shut out the Federal Reserve corporation from charging the US government interest.

Should have,...but Kennedy was assainated, and the silver notes were yanked out of circulation by the new presidency, even though the executive order is still in force, and the notes are still legal tender.!



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 09:35 PM
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Someone told me, a lawyer that the FEMA Executive Emergencey orders were recinded. I checked the national registry and it had indeed apeared recinded.

I am no legal expert and in fact FEMA has lots of emergencey laws.

I am also not aware of teh legaliaty and the consitutionality of Executive Orders, written by the president in a little black book?

On his last days in office Clinton wrote some 100 Executive Orders.



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 09:37 PM
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I think many of the FEMA EO's were websuspect,...and yes Wild Bill was mashing them out like no tomorrow!



posted on Nov, 18 2003 @ 10:29 PM
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Apon further assesment I added a seperate thread with added information about these EOs. Most of which were revoked.

Clinton added about 3 more EOs which were pretty much dead. It appears that Executive orders are simply congresional directives and that its up to congress to carry these orders out.

In order for EOs to be enacted, congress must pass bills making legislature to enact them. An EO can never ever be anything more than a congresional directive. FOr it to be so would be unconsitutional.



posted on Nov, 19 2003 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by websuspect
It appears that Executive orders are simply Congressional directives and that its up to congress to carry these orders out.

In order for EOs to be enacted, congress must pass bills making legislature to enact them. An EO can never ever be anything more than a Congressional directive. For it to be so would be unconstitutional.


They ARE unconstitutional!
"...they are dictatorial powers provided to the President, and were originally intended to be used in national emergency situations such as war. They are actually illegal because they bypass the constitutional requirements to pass laws through congressional approval only. Executive orders are simply filed in the Federal Register by the President and after 30 days they become law just as though they had been passed by congress."
"Even though the...E.O's, authored by President John Kennedy, have been revoked and\or amended at least ten times, their content has remained alive and well under subsequent E.O.'s. Nixon revoked most of the above E.O.'s, but then replaced them with E.O. 11490, which still gave the federal government powerful tools to institute martial law. E.O. 11490 was later revoked and replaced by Ronald Reagan's E.O.'s 12656 and 12657, which gave FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) even more power than they had already received from Jimmy Carter's E.O. 12148. George Bush extended FEMA's Powers even more by giving them control of all the disaster and "emergency" functions."
www.seebo.net...

The government never gives up it's power of it's own accord. Since 1933 when FDR put the Constitution on hold, & declared a state of emergency (which no one ever declared over) to deal with the Depression, the president has retained the right to use executive powers to impose martial law whenever there is a war or national emergency.



posted on Nov, 19 2003 @ 02:45 AM
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JFK's Executive Order (basically ending the Federal Reserve Act) 11110.

ecclesia.org...

(his way to return the power to the people after seeing the horrors of the "Operation Northwoods" Document
(look at what they wanted to do TO US IN THE 60's! IMAGINE TODAY!))


www.retakingamerica.com...

or just the document below:

www.gwu.edu...


[Edited on 19-11-2003 by BeingWatchedByThem]



posted on Nov, 19 2003 @ 05:23 PM
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I think the US has been 'at war' declared for something or other, continuously since FDR.





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