Are these the aliens that fly in UFOs?

Is there anyone having the geniue video somwhere - or is it gone forever?

Looks interresting..

I saw the Movie - with the actors... And clearly - there is a huge difference..
The Actor version - the people talk in one tone only - But in this clip from the geniue video - They scream - and it might be real...No joke so far.

Originally posted by SkyWay

Anyone could have written that. That is no proof of anything except how easily some people who read stuff like that are fooled. Some people keep themselves in the dark obviously. Even when evidence reveals the truth and it is staring them in the face they can't see it. How do you cure that kind of myopia?

It's from this site:
www.badmovieplanet.com...

It's not a site on debunking UFOs and aliens, it's a site that specialises independent film and low budget flicks. I'm sure they are the ones to know more info on projects such as this than some random guy who claims the acting is 'Too good to be fake'. Anyone could have made a claim about the movie, saying it's real and not just footage from a low budget flick being passed around by enthusiasts.



Let me get this straight. You saw the full version of the supposed abduction video on TV one night and you claim the footage you saw had different realistic looking 'aliens' in it. According to you, for some reason the footage on youtube has different tacky fake looking aliens put in, am I correct?


[edit on 4-12-2006 by Spreadthetruth]

Originally posted by Spreadthetruth
Let me get this straight. You saw the full version of the supposed abduction video on TV one night and you claim the footage you saw had different realistic looking 'aliens' in it. According to you, for some reason the footage on youtube has different tacky fake looking aliens put in, am I correct?
[edit on 4-12-2006 by Spreadthetruth]

Wow! You actually got something right!

Yes. I saw the original. I realize though that the best way to get you, or anyone else, to understand would be to show you the original video in its entirety. The aliens would be easily distinguishable from the silly alien costumes that are presented on that clip at youtube. However, I don't know where the tape is, besides it's a cassette video so I couldn't get it on the computer anyway. So I guess you will never really know what the original was like. It was REALLY something to see!

[edit on 4-12-2006 by SkyWay]

I just found this site, which is about the original footage. This claims the original video as well as the McPherson tapes are both hoaxes. Apparently you can buy the original film from the listed address and it comes with the TV segment it was featured on as well.

Okay, so here's the scoop on getting my video...

As you read in my letter, we are selling ONLY the ORIGINAL video
that the UPN show was based on, called UFO ABDUCTION (Dick Clark
Productions owns Alien Abduction/McPherson Tape, not me -- sorry).
However, it was my original infamous video that convinced the
entire world-wide UFO community that an actual alien abduction had
finally been captured on video! It was hailed as the greatest UFO
hoax of all time and was featured on the FOX Network paranormal
series ENCOUNTERS. I have included that TV segment for the first
time with this video. This never-before-released video is available
for only $19.95 PLUS $4.95 shipping and handling (shipping costs
vary outside the US). Please make out checks or money orders to
INDIESYNDICATE PRODUCTIONS: 8023 BEVERLY BLVD. # 5-251, LOS ANGELES,
CA 90048. For credit card purchases please e-mail us your name,
credit card number, expiration date, and billing address for the
credit card. We will send you a confirmation of your credit card
charges via email. Please allow 4 to 6 weeks delivery.


Thank you again for all of your e-mails and keep watching the skies!

Sincerely,
Dean Alioto

Complete letter (1 extra paragraph)

Mannn!!! No #!!!

Now does everyone get it!?!

A short film was made

A clip went online although it couldn't have appeared on youtube originally as youtube is only around a year old.

It is then made into a bigger project backed by Dick Clark

Everything is part of the same project essentially

That's why I posted my first link with all the info on the whole thing.

If everyone would have just read all the info on that site there would be no confusion.

And yes, I may have added to the confusion by not completely explaining but I was under the impression that everyone had read the info on the link but disbelieving it.

IMO some of you still thought there was a real and authentic video with real aliens and that's why it was driving me crazy.

So, are we all agreed that the entire thing is fake?


[edit on 4-12-2006 by jbondo]

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[edit on 4-12-2006 by sanctum]

With apologies to the ongoing discussion about the 'faked' ufo landing..

I was prompted to join and comment by the 'puppety head' area 51 clip.
More specifically,the UFO diagram from the supposedly South African document.
It sports a decal:an upward pointing arrow in a half circle.

I don't know why it's in a South African document,because I know it from the 'Socorro saucer' incident.Police officer Lonnie Zamora saw it on the side of an egg shaped craft,in red.I have the book somewhere in the attic;author called Stanford,I think.
The creature accompanying the S.A. ufo matches Zamoras description of the 2 small humanoids he watched climb in and fly away,dressed in tight fitting overalls.
Its been a while since I read the book,but I think Hynek investigated for 'Blue Book',retrieving metal scrapings from the impressions left by the crafts undercarriage.
Why it's on a traditional ufo and linked to this 'alien',I don't know..but that symbol is from an american sighting (Nevada?,Arizona?),not south african.

I thought it was a very well produced drama short video. nothing more

Originally posted by 7Ayreon
This movie was. HILARIOUS. Typical white people with an african american stuck in the midst of there issue. Take a look at the mother, watch how she carries her glass of red wine like it's the most important thing LOL!! I had the whole family just ignoring the fear and laughing at it's usual family comedy. LOL. Oh and BTW, how is this fake? All I got was a site link and that's it. It aint fake until I see testimonials.

7A

Okay, here we go again.

In the link submitted by our fellow jbondo (1st page of this thread) apart of reading the whole story, you can find the e-mail of the director/creator of both videos so you can buy a copy of the movie (the one that you call "original" or "real") directly from him (as he stills owns the rights).

Please stop being lazy, go to the link, read the thing and e-mail the guy.

the link:
www.badmovieplanet.com...

email of the guy (Dean Alioto, director/creator of both movies):
[email protected]

Originally posted by 7Pan7cho7
I just found this site, which is about the original footage. This claims the original video as well as the McPherson tapes are both hoaxes.

That is what all evidence of ufos and aliens and pretty much everything that is out of the ordinary is called. It is routine to label such things hoax. This is nothing new. It's been going on since the "swamp gas" and "weather balloon" days. By now most of you must know that professional government liars are going to concoct all kinds of false stories that conceal the truth about ufos. The McPherson case is just one of many that have been attacked by the agencies of lies and disinformation.

Okay, so here's the scoop on getting my video...

As you read in my letter, we are selling ONLY the ORIGINAL video
that the UPN show was based on, called UFO ABDUCTION (Dick Clark
Productions owns Alien Abduction/McPherson Tape, not me -- sorry).
However, it was my original infamous video that convinced the
entire world-wide UFO community that an actual alien abduction had
finally been captured on video! It was hailed as the greatest UFO
hoax of all time and was featured on the FOX Network paranormal
series ENCOUNTERS. I have included that TV segment for the first
time with this video. This never-before-released video is available
for only $19.95 PLUS $4.95 shipping and handling (shipping costs
vary outside the US). Please make out checks or money orders to
INDIESYNDICATE PRODUCTIONS: 8023 BEVERLY BLVD. # 5-251, LOS ANGELES,
CA 90048. For credit card purchases please e-mail us your name,
credit card number, expiration date, and billing address for the
credit card. We will send you a confirmation of your credit card
charges via email. Please allow 4 to 6 weeks delivery.


Thank you again for all of your e-mails and keep watching the skies!

Sincerely,
Dean Alioto

Complete letter (1 extra paragraph)

Don't you guys know by now how easy it is for people to steal other people's identity. Any person can make the claim that they are someone else...especially if the actual person has been missing for years and also if the phoney claiming to be that person has help from agencies such as the CIA or the FBI. These spook agencies are always setting up phoney fronts made to appear as legitimate businesses. Even criminals do that. The above advertisement for the video is designed to make people think that the person selling the video is the original producer of the video but he isn't. He's a phoney pretending to be the originator of a video that was produced by another. This is all contrived to make people think that the original video was not an ACTUAL EVENT but just a "low-budget" movie. That company name above also sounds fake. The only fakery involved in this incident is the claim by the seedy characters who claim that the video is not real. Don't fall for the old "weather balloon" cover-up.

The actual video of the abduction is real. The abduction actually occurred. And the guy who really filmed it has been missing, along with the other McPhersons, since the abduction occurred.

Originally posted by SkyWay
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The actual video of the abduction is real. The abduction actually occurred. And the guy who really filmed it has been missing, along with the other McPhersons, since the abduction occurred.

Please, back that up. Show us some filed police reports of the McPhersons decleared missing.


Just out of interest, what have you been drawing your conclusions from? Hopefully not a show on TV you saw years back..

Originally posted by Spreadthetruth

Originally posted by SkyWay
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The actual video of the abduction is real. The abduction actually occurred. And the guy who really filmed it has been missing, along with the other McPhersons, since the abduction occurred.

Please, back that up. Show us some filed police reports of the McPhersons decleared missing.


Just out of interest, what have you been drawing your conclusions from? Hopefully not a show on TV you saw years back..

Actually, part of the reason that I have become more convinced of the "realness" of the original video is because of all of the attempts to convince everyone that it is phoney. Genuine hoaxes do not require such extensive efforts to expose them. They fall apart of their own inability to endure over time. But, honestly, it is easy to see why the government is in no hurry to reveal the truth. This thread shows how easily some people are gulled by the government's prepared cover-ups.

My conclusions are derived in this manner...the video that I saw is much...much...much more convincing than the bogus stories about actors and struggling producers trying to make a name for themselves. If you saw the video you would be able to see and hear the genuine fear and panic in the faces and voices of the real people who were actually abducted. Most people who have watched other people on television for a few years learn to detect when people are acting, and when they are not. It's quite amazing the way the camera can confirm those who are being genuine, and expose liars. That is also why I am not sucked in by the phoneys who claim they are the originators of the video.

ok, and first, the video looks quite authentic, the camera is slightly shaky, maybe from fear, and the women filming it seems quite distressed and is breathing heavily.

but, being a phychology student and having studied fear, this is not the reaction you would get from someone genuinly afraid. If i saw a UFO from that distance, i would naturally be scared for my life, so it would be in my best interest to keep quite no matter what. It is proven that under extreme conditions of fear, the body can perform things that it wouldnt normally be able todo....

for example have u ever heard something outside your bedroom window at night?
i have, and at these times i find myself soundless, you cant hear anything coming from yourself, and u remain perfectly still as to not attract attention to yourself. this would have been a more logical reaction from someone thats looking at an extraterrestrial. Never the less, i would accept that reaction, she might not be that scared, it might no be the first time she'd seen it.

from about 1 quarter of the way thru the video, i got sceptical, as it begins to look like an inattimate object, it makes no movement at all. Very strange.

It lost me when about 3 quarters of the way thru the film i noticed that the definitions of the body where actually a twigs from a bush infront of a light. It looks like a front door porch to me, with a decorative bush at the side of it, that is creating the image of an alien. Not a very convincing alien i might add.. its back looks perfectly straight lol
if it is actually real, then ill quite phychology and visual media hahahaha
the rest of the videos kick ass

very impressive

the last one scared the B-Jesus outta me lol
when i saw the whole film afew months ago i didnt sleep until i found out it was fake.... BUT THEN i just watched that video which is done with different people and my god its freaked me out :S lol

oh well, life goes on

nice one mate

Hey Skyway... Why don't you locate your original (copy ) tape?

It doesn't really matter what the media is... It CAN be converted.

Originally posted by golemina
Hey Skyway... Why don't you locate your original (copy

) tape?

It doesn't really matter what the media is... It CAN be converted.

I've been meaning to do that but, ugh! it's a daunting task. I have to search through quite a few videos and the Mcpherson case is embedded within one of the videos along with many other shows that I taped. Besides I am not sure how I would then convert the tape into digital. Actually, I'm not even sure I still have the cassette with the program on it because from time to time I would discard some of my cassettes simply to make room for others. I may still check through a few of them to see if I get lucky and locate the right one. Now, this discussion has ignited a desire to view it again. Wish I had labeled these cassettes.

>'...ugh! it's a daunting task. '

I understand all too well...

>'Wish I had labeled these cassettes.'

You did. You just don't remember.

You might consider giving yourself a pre-sleep suggestion to locate it (or ask for help ).

You'll get your answer... IYKWIM.

I thought it might be fun to see your version.

Originally posted by golemina

I thought it might be fun to see your version.

It is some powerful stuff! If video evidence can convince you then this should do the job. The people in the video are as genuinely terrified as anyone I have seen in real life. These are not actors...actors can't display that kind of raw emotion. This discussion has made me kind of glad that I taped the program. I am interested in viewing it again. Hope I can find it.

reply to post by jbondo


Didn't the director from the 1989 home-video tell that he made the story up?!? Did you people not read the link at Badmovies that was listed? Frickin' check wikipedia too!

BOTH MOVIES WERE MADE BY THE SAME DIRECTOR. THE STORY WAS CREATED BY THE DIRECTOR.

He wrote the story, and held the friggin camera for the 1989 movie. He directed the remake from a room in the back of the house remotely; instructing the cameraman. CAN YOU NOT INVESTIGATE?!?

THE STORY IS HIS. It is FICTIONAL.

I normally don't reply with such petty words but FOR CHRISSAKES...GET A GRIP AND INVESTIGATE IT!!!

Unless you believe the director of the movies is in kahoots with the Government on a conspiracy/cover-up

And if so, perhaps your interweb acess should be revoked....!!!

IDIOT!

Both Bush and aliens are nothing but just idols. I 'm myself I will not fraid from bush and bush himself like person with less brain in his head. The weakness of America empire is mean the death satans. Before HOLY CREATOR send HIS angles and the world empire is weak and their leaders like toys. Either you surrdener the HOLY CREATOR (GOD of Abraham) or you will be destroy by HIM.