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Originally posted by jimboman
..or have supposed to have started? Just asking because I remember watching long smoke-trails from planes when I was about 10 or 11 years old (I'm 40 now), which would've been in the 1970s.
Originally posted by jimboman
Ok, just found some links and the earliest date they have is 1990.
www.chemtrailcentral.com...
Funny, some of the photos look EXACTLY like what I remember seeing as a kid. Either they started much earlier than anyone believes or it's all a big mistake and there are no such thing as chemtrails.
Over to you peeps...
[edit on 21/11/06 by jimboman] [/quote
Bet on the latter. Persisting contrails have been noticed since planes were able to reach high altitudes, and besides, several of us have been asking chemtrail believers exactly why in their opinion contrails CANNOT persist, and all we get is the internet equivlant of crickets chirping.
Some of us here are very knowledgable about aviation and meteorology, but we seem to be the last people those who believe in chemtrails want to talk to.
Originally posted by firepilot
Originally posted by jimboman
Ok, just found some links and the earliest date they have is 1990.
www.chemtrailcentral.com...
Funny, some of the photos look EXACTLY like what I remember seeing as a kid. Either they started much earlier than anyone believes or it's all a big mistake and there are no such thing as chemtrails.
Over to you peeps...
[edit on 21/11/06 by jimboman] [/quote
Bet on the latter. Persisting contrails have been noticed since planes were able to reach high altitudes, and besides, several of us have been asking chemtrail believers exactly why in their opinion contrails CANNOT persist, and all we get is the internet equivlant of crickets chirping.
Some of us here are very knowledgeable about aviation and meteorology, but we seem to be the last people those who believe in chemtrails want to talk to.
I didn't say I believed in them, I was just hoping to catch somebody out!!
The reason is because I've noticed that maybe somebody on tv or on the net comes up with an idea then all of a sudden these other people jump on it and it gets a life of it's own. Usually with all kinds of spurious 'proof' that doesn't stand up.
Forgive for ranting here, but John Lear is an example. (numerous threads, look them up).
That Serpo thing, and the John Titor incident, are also examples.
Why is this all in a quote box?
[edit on 23/11/06 by jimboman]
Originally posted by jimboman
Originally posted by firepilot
Originally posted by jimboman
Ok, just found some links and the earliest date they have is 1990.
www.chemtrailcentral.com...
Funny, some of the photos look EXACTLY like what I remember seeing as a kid. Either they started much earlier than anyone believes or it's all a big mistake and there are no such thing as chemtrails.
Over to you peeps...
[edit on 21/11/06 by jimboman]
Bet on the latter. Persisting contrails have been noticed since planes were able to reach high altitudes, and besides, several of us have been asking chemtrail believers exactly why in their opinion contrails CANNOT persist, and all we get is the internet equivlant of crickets chirping.
Some of us here are very knowledgeable about aviation and meteorology, but we seem to be the last people those who believe in chemtrails want to talk to.
I didn't say I believed in them, I was just hoping to catch somebody out!!
The reason is because I've noticed that maybe somebody on tv or on the net comes up with an idea then all of a sudden these other people jump on it and it gets a life of it's own. Usually with all kinds of spurious 'proof' that doesn't stand up.
Forgive for ranting here, but John Lear is an example. (numerous threads, look them up).
That Serpo thing, and the John Titor incident, are also examples.
Why is this all in a quote box?
[edit on 23/11/06 by jimboman]
Originally posted by greydawn
If you look at old National Geographic Magazines cica 1987, you can clearly see them spraying in full page pictures. If you can find some old magazines like National Geographic that is a good place to start. By the way don't listen to any of these debunkers, they're just doing their job.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
I've worked in the industry also, and i don't believe every boeing has a chemtrail machine hidden in the tailcone as is said, but i can see some planning going into the design of airway routing, separation minimums, etc. to cause a high local concentration of standard contrails, wth the result of forming artificial cloud cover to increse planetary albedo. I don't think the guy on the ground with the single point is in on it, if so i wasn't briefed on it either.
I also don't discount that there are a few true chemtrail aircraft out there, doing things like cloud seeding or other weather control stuff, but they'd be based in secure locations and somehow work their way into and out of the system on the DL. After all, last year on october the weather modification bill went through, there's gotta be a reason for it.
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Originally posted by DezertSkies
and i don't believe every boeing has a chemtrail machine hidden in the tailcone as is said
Originally posted by DezertSkies
but i can see some planning going into the design of airway routing, separation minimums, etc. to cause a high local concentration of standard contrails, wth the result of forming artificial cloud cover to increse planetary albedo. I don't think the guy on the ground with the single point is in on it, if so i wasn't briefed on it either.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
I also don't discount that there are a few true chemtrail aircraft out there, doing things like cloud seeding or other weather control stuff, but they'd be based in secure locations and somehow work their way into and out of the system on the DL.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
After all, last year on october the weather modification bill went through, there's gotta be a reason for it.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
Okay, here's the bills, i was referring to:
www.govtrack.us...
www.govtrack.us...
interdisciplinary research and coordination of research and activities to improve understanding of processes relating to weather modification, including cloud modeling, cloud seeding, improving forecast and decision-making technologies, related severe weather research, and potential adverse affects of weather modification
Originally posted by DezertSkies
I don't believe the tower or center guys are in on it, what i'm saying is that if enough traffic flies the SIDs and STARS, airways, intersections, at the right altitudes and spacing, basically by the book, then the patterns will appear on any moderate air traffic day under the right atmospheric conditions.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
too many pilots and crew talk to each other to keep anything that flies a secret for long.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
and i've yet to have even the blank white government aircraft that would come in at odd hours ask for a 2000lbs of jetA in the center and to top off the chemtrail tank.
Originally posted by DezertSkies
I've worked in the industry also, and i don't believe every boeing has a chemtrail machine hidden in the tailcone as is said, but i can see some planning going into the design of airway routing, separation minimums, etc. to cause a high local concentration of standard contrails, wth the result of forming artificial cloud cover to increse planetary albedo.