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Originally posted by firebat
The 144,000 could mean anything... it could be a metaphor for all of "God's people." Or it could be 144,000 specific descendants of Jacob. The "Witnesses" claim that 144,000 will go to heaven while the rest of us will stay here on Earth.
[edit on 17-11-2006 by firebat]
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
From what I have understood,I am not certain,someone here is bound to be affiliated with Jehovah's Witnesses,is that JWs believe that only 144,000 will actually be permitted into heaven. I don't know how true that is,but that is what I have gathered.
Originally posted by denythestatusquo
There is a lot of controversy as to what the 144K means and always has been that way. I would not be surprised that the number be bandied about to get tacit support from Christians for the war in Iraq. But practically speaking I doubt that this number can be maintained due to logistical reasons.
It's funny that Christians support a people that turned their back on their main man so many years ago.
Arcanum 12: The Apostolate
We must now study the Twelfth Arcanum of the Tarot. Chinese tradition mentions the Ten Trunks (Shikan) and the twelve branches. It is necessary to know that the seven chakras and the five senses are the Twelve Faculties. The universe emerged from the Chinese Hoel-Tun; this is the primordial Chaos. The Ten Trunks and the Twelve Branches emerged from the chaos, which in Alchemy is the Ens Seminis, the Lapis Philosophorum or the Philosophical Stone.
The entire Misterium Mágnum is found enclosed within this Sum Matter.
The Alchemist must extract the Potable Gold from within this Menstrum Universale in order to achieve the blending of the Cross with the Triangle. Before achieving this amalgamation, we do not have a true existence. The four Bodies of Sin (Physical, Vital, Astral and Mental) are controlled by the Ego.
The Ego, the “I” is not the Divine Being of the Human Being. Indeed, the “I” is the total sum of successive “I”s, for instance: John the drunkard, John the tenor, John the intellectual, John the religious one, John the merchant, John the youth, John the mature one, John the elder, etc… all are a succession of “I”s, a succession of phantoms that inevitably are condemned to death. The “I” does not constitute the whole of what the human being is. John fought in the tavern, John is now a religious one, John is now a bandit; to that end, every person is a dance of Johns, so who is the true John? Therefore, if we do not escape from the fallacy of all of these multiple “I”s, we cannot asseverate that we have a true existence.
Present humans have not incarnated their Immortal Soul (their Divine Being) yet. Thus, from this point of view we can asseverate that present humans have no true existence yet.
The Annihilation of all of those false and mistakenly called centers of Consciousness is only possible by denying oneself.
We are astonished when seeing how so many students of occultism (as if they were Great Masters) attire themselves with tunics and disclose beautiful and sounding names upon themselves, when indeed they do not even have true existence.
It is necessary to annihilate the “I” in order to attain true existence.
Do you want to drink? Then do not drink; do you what to smoke? Then do not smoke.
Did they strike you right cheek? Then present your left cheek to them.
The supreme negation of oneself is found in the coitus. Not to ejaculate the Ens Seminis in the supreme moment is an absolute sacrifice of the “I”; the outcome of such a negation of oneself is the awakening of the Kundalini. The fire burns the evil scoria and in the end it absolutely dissolves the “I”. The fire is the Potable Gold...
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Iraq is merely experiencing part of the judgement foretold in Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Isaiah 13
Originally posted by Tamahu
1+4+4+0+0+0 = 9
The Hermit, Yesod, Peter, the Rock(Sex) or Philosopher's Stone that must be chiseled by the Master Mason, the Church of Christ that must Be Built on a Solid Foundation of Stone within ourselves.
...While the Prophet was still but a toddling babe(Initiatically speaking), the Angel Gabriel(Yesod) with seventy wings(Solar Imagination) came to him, and cutting open the child, withdrew the heart(of the Atom Nous of Christ). This Gabriel(Yesod/Generation) cleansed(through White Tantra) of the black drop of original sin(which is ejaculation/fornication) which is in every human heart because of the perfidy of Adam(related to Tiphereth) and then returned the organ to its proper place(invigorated by the Christic Fire of Kundalini) in the Prophet's body...
Originally posted by LightWorker13
If you want one source for this, Patrick Bellringer has been a great teacher in these subjects and has a direct channeled link to the Masters, as do many other people. His site is www.fourwinds10.com
Initiatic Preparation 3
On one occasion, we visited a spiritualist temple; we then saw how a Demon entered into a medium and while passing as Jesus Christ, he spoke filled with sweetness and all the listeners, full of a terrible fanaticism, worshipped him. This is what the spiritism or spiritualism is, black magic; this is the abyss. It is stressful to state this, yet, it is the truth, and we must not be complacent with crime.
All the spiritualist schools, organizations and orders of this century are in the abyss.
Esoteric Course of Theurgy
The Path of High Theurgy allows us to study the great mysteries of Life and Death.
However, it is necessary to learn how to consciously travel in the Astral Body.
Therefore, those who still do not have that faculty and want to attain it need to acquire it through daily and vigorous training.
At the precise moment of awakening from normal sleep, after returning into the physical body and awakening in bed, many students commit the error of moving their bodies. They ignore that with this movement, the Astral Body becomes agitated and memories are lost. Therefore, when awakening from normal sleep, the student of Occultism must not move! We must remain resting, with our eyes closed, and perform a retrospective exercise in order to remember (in detail) all the places we were while in the Astral Body, all the words that we heard, that we said, etc.
Understand that for these types of investigations, the mediums (channelers) of Spiritism or Spiritualism are useless. It so happens that mediums do not have enough mental equilibrium. Mediums are victims of tenebrous entities. Mediums have their Mental Body dislocated; actually, the Mental and Astral Bodies of mediums are dislocated. Thus, because mediums have these two vehicles in such a condition, they cannot possess the necessary mental equilibrium and the exact logic in order to investigate the causes and effects of Nature. We already know that the Laws of Nature are wisely processed. Every effect has its cause. Every cause is the effect of another superior cause.
We have frequently heard of so many unbalanced individuals who state that they “channel” entities from beyond! Usually, those “channelers” are mediums.
Notwithstanding, it is necessary to know that the investigator of the Superior Worlds must possess a faultless mental equilibrium for this purpose. The true investigator is profoundly analytical and rigorously exact. We are mathematical in investigation and very demanding in expression.
Originally posted by Tamahu
And it is Better to practice White Sexual-Transmutation and Meditation, instead of channelling the disincarnate lunar bodies of people, and of demons, masquerading as Masters of the White Lodge!
Or am I mistaken?
Originally posted by LightWorker13
AT LEAST 144, 000 souls would be need to restart, in the wake of a global catalcysm or a pole shift. Thank god, we are not gonna have to go through a pole shift, and if we are, the Forces of Light, (who the ancients called "the masters") will come and transport us off this planet or to inner Earth for safety.
It has been said that their are 144, 000 lightworkers on this planet, I believe though that EVERYONE is a lightworker at one level or another...its just others consciously know it. It has been said that the lightworkers are the ones who will be saved, but this I dont believe.