Originally posted by smallpeeps
Sure there may be other cultures who also do it. Do I need to explain to you the difference between an organized global religion and a tribe of a few
thousand people who might have some silly custom?
The only difference is the numbers of people involved.
You are trying to argue that the Christians in Addis Ababa are just as likely to do this because they live in Africa? Is it that Africans are
Its their culture in that part of the world to shear off the labia of women. They do it because its their custom, just like people in autralia rip
open the shaft of their penis, because its their custom.
Please Nygdan, expert of all things including genitals, tell me where it has been recorded and dictated for hundreds of years and taught to
billions of people that it is okay to mutilate one's daughter in this way?
I never said it was.
You say that Christians also do this and it may be so that Christians in muslim countries do this,
There's no 'may' here, they do it, plain and simple, and they're not doing it because muslims are forcing them too. Its a tradition/cultural
practice in and around the horn of africa. The pre-muslim people's did it, and the post-muslim people's are doing it.
To say that it is just a cultral practice, is stupid.
To continuously argue against strawman arguments that you've made up is stupid.
other than Mohammed, I think you'll be hard pressed to find ANY prophet of god who gives instructions on how to cut the clitoris of a small
Where does mohammed say to do this?
I believe the instructions for female circumcision in the Quran are to not remove too much. They are instructed to remove only the hood of the
THis would be analagous to removing the foreskin.
You brought up the topic of sub-incision, something I was not familiar with which of course forced me into the horrible position of having to go read
and learn stuff
Yikes! Bad move! Never research 'penis mutilation traditions'.
it seems not only is this completely voluntary (in some cultures) it is said to actually increase sexual pleasure of the male and width of the
Lets all keep something in mind here, the women in that part of the world aren't generally opposed to this practice, its 'voluntary', as voluntary
as sub-incision amoung the aborigines. I'd personally call it brainwashing, other people might call it enculturation.
But it doesn't in fact take away the pleasure of sex for the male
I agree, its not an analog, the only analog that's actually practiced anywhere would be a sex change operation.
Heck, even that leaves some of hte material intact in order to replicate a clitoris.
...but the difference between sub-incision and clitoral castration seems subtle yet signifigant.
No arguement here. But, it does show that people can be made to think and do some pretty stupid things.
As far as 'sexual pleasure', these cultures, that severely mutliate their genitals, they're not concerned with sexual pleasure per se much anyway.
These are cultures that have strict controls on sex, even outside of this mutliation issue.
in male dominated societies like the cultures of north-east africa a sexually empowered woman is a threat to the male ego.
Sexualy active and empowered women in these kinds of socieities are prostitutes. Its not liek over here where people equate sex primarily with
physical pleasure and see it as a virture, sex in other places is a reproductive act that must be controlled.
Wouldn't you look on it as more of a chore or duty of procreation?
Thats what it is in these cultures, not a pleasureable act that a person might be in the mood for and jump into or go looking for, but a mode of