"Neo Con Terrorist Bloggers"

Well it was only a matter of time that free spoken well informed individuals are labeled as "terrorists"....Ya know sometimes I seriously just stop, look back and wonder...what the heck happened to this world? We have ABSOLUTLY NO human rights any longer, it's unbelievably mind blowing.

"Bush administration efforts to infiltrate, misdirect, regulate and pollute the Internet with Neo-Con propaganda, as well as their openly stated agenda to target American bloggers as terrorists, is now being aped by the British government across the pond as well as other major European countries.

Home Secretary John Reid met with ministers from the six largest European Union countries and, according to a BBC report, "agreed to work together to make the internet a "more hostile" place for terrorists."


full story: www.prisonplanet.com...

-DG724

Great post, thanks for sharing the information.

The freedoms and rights we enjoy are becoming more limited every year. Having a different opinion seems not to be tolerated any longer. Internet is a threat to governments, it enables the average Joe to share and discuss political issues in a matter of seconds.

Ask yourself how much you would have known about conspiracies related to 9/11 if you wouldn't have had access to internet.

That's exactly the reason why it was much easier for politicians and governments to be involved in dirty business without it getting noticed.

Don't be surprised when you suddenly loss connection to the internet in times of crisis

So basically the complaint here is that people that are conservatives have the audacity to speak their minds on the internet, and that it just must be a secret plot by evil mr. bush.

Originally posted by Mdv2
Great post, thanks for sharing the information.

The freedoms and rights we enjoy are becoming more limited every year. Having a different opinion seems not to be tolerated any longer. Internet is a threat to governments, it enables the average Joe to share and discuss political issues in a matter of seconds.

Ask yourself how much you would have known about conspiracies related to 9/11 if you wouldn't have had access to internet.

That's exactly the reason why it was much easier for politicians and governments to be involved in dirty business without it getting noticed.

Don't be surprised when you suddenly loss connection to the internet in times of crisis

MDV2,

I agree with you 100%, I was just telling someone the other day that I'm surprised we got THIS far with the internet. I also feel it'll be the first thing to go once Martial Law is fully acted upon....to you know, "protect us". And sheep with comply and admire the actions taken by the gov't to 'ensure our safety' when the truly informed web surfers/reseachers will know how truly bad it has gotten. When will all the world wake up and realize that facts are facts and the world in which we are living in is not what we signed up for. I love those posters, commericals etc that say things like "reward for any information reguarding the identification of persons reponsible for the 9/11 attacks"....i'd be rich if they'd listen to me....

*sigh*

-DG724

Originally posted by Nygdan
So basically the complaint here is that people that are conservatives have the audacity to speak their minds on the internet, and that it just must be a secret plot by evil mr. bush.

yup. its the "you're either for us or against us" policy.


unbelievable....

-DG724

Originally posted by Nygdan
So basically the complaint here is that people that are conservatives have the audacity to speak their minds on the internet, and that it just must be a secret plot by evil mr. bush.

My dearest Neoconservative friend,

Who says it is only a matter of speaking when we are ever already experiencing limitations of expressing our opinion.

This example might be a bit extreme, however, it does show how far agencies will go.
example

Edit: link

[edit on 26-10-2006 by Mdv2]

There's a simple solution for you Americans who are chaffing under Neo-American rule.

Move north!

While the US continues to remove civil rights under the guise of fighting the war on terror, the scant few security acts passed up here are being challenged and disassembled when they conflict with our constitution and rights. Check this out: Click here

Canada would welcome and influx of thinking, socially aware, yet dissatisfied Americans. There's plent of room up here for those who truly believe in freedom.

Huh, y'know I still am having a problem figuring out how I have lost all my rights! I still am able to post to this website freely and without fear. You have posted to this website freely. I'm still waiting for the gastapo to bust down my d.......er, wait a minute, my doorbells ringing.....be right back....

.........sounds of scuffeling can be heard in the background....."Wait! What are those handcuffs for?.....Noooooo!!

Originally posted by Mdv2

Don't be surprised when you suddenly loss connection to the internet in times of crisis

Ironic you would say that, on the morning of 911, ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEFORE CNN AIRED THE FIRST FOOTAGE OF THE ATTACKS, ( I had a TV on in my office), my internet connection, (Comcast), went down, and stayed down until @ 12 pm EST.

Originally posted by Mdv2

This example might be a bit extreme, however, it does show how far agencies will go.
example

Edit: link

How does the Secret Service not take every threat to the President seriously. If you are stupid enough to post such things as that girl did, then you deserve to get a visit from the Secret Service.

I would expect the Secret Service to do the same regardless of the President in power or the possible threat they discover. How is this a Neo Con threat? There are a lot of crazy people out there, you know.

[edit on 26-10-2006 by pavil]

Originally posted by BitRaiser
There's a simple solution for you Americans who are chaffing under Neo-American rule.

Move north!

While the US continues to remove civil rights under the guise of fighting the war on terror, the scant few security acts passed up here are being challenged and disassembled when they conflict with our constitution and rights. Check this out: Click here

Canada would welcome and influx of thinking, socially aware, yet dissatisfied Americans. There's plent of room up here for those who truly believe in freedom.

Bush is doing away with the borders, you guys are screwed too. (sorry) lol.


as for the link to the 14 year old...I saw that on the news, its amazing how they questioned her without her parent's consent & presence, we all know the administration & it's evil bots are above the law. im surprised this website even exists!

-DG724

Originally posted by pavil
How does the Secret Service not take every threat to the President seriously. If you are stupid enough to post such things as that girl did, then you deserve to get a visit from the Secret Service.

It is stupid what that girl did, but remember it is a 14 years old girl. If you expect such a girl to be a threat than I seriously doubt your capabilities. Aren't their much more important things to do such as defending the US rather than hunting 14 year old girls?

Originally posted by dragongirl724
Bush is doing away with the borders, you guys are screwed too. (sorry) lol.

Bush would still have to contend with Canadians on this front. He can't impose his will over us as easily as many people seem to think. Canadians tend to be laid back most of the time, but when we get ticked off we get nasty.

Believe you me... attempting to merge Canada and the US would tick us off greatly.

FYI, the NAU movement is all about forming a trade block much like the EU. It's not about doing away with borders. Sorry to dissapoint you.
That said, I believe Canada has to firmly resist NAU since it's an obvious ploy by the US to exploit Canadian resources and Mexican cheep labor. We're already fed up with NAFTA and the public feelings on NAU is mostly along the lines of "Go to hell".

Sorry for the minor derailing.

Originally posted by BitRaiser

Originally posted by dragongirl724
Bush is doing away with the borders, you guys are screwed too. (sorry) lol.

Bush would still have to contend with Canadians on this front. He can't impose his will over us as easily as many people seem to think. Canadians tend to be laid back most of the time, but when we get ticked off we get nasty.

Believe you me... attempting to merge Canada and the US would tick us off greatly.

FYI, the NAU movement is all about forming a trade block much like the EU. It's not about doing away with borders. Sorry to dissapoint you.
That said, I believe Canada has to firmly resist NAU since it's an obvious ploy by the US to exploit Canadian resources and Mexican cheep labor. We're already fed up with NAFTA and the public feelings on NAU is mostly along the lines of "Go to hell".

Sorry for the minor derailing.

i hope for your sake that your gov't stand true. but canadia is still too close for me...i got my eyes on australia!

-DG724

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[edit on 10/26/2006 by darkbluesky]

Originally posted by BitRaiser

Originally posted by dragongirl724
Bush is doing away with the borders, you guys are screwed too. (sorry) lol.

Bush would still have to contend with Canadians on this front. He can't impose his will over us as easily as many people seem to think. Canadians tend to be laid back most of the time, but when we get ticked off we get nasty.

Believe you me... attempting to merge Canada and the US would tick us off greatly.

Maybe those in Quebec and half of Ontario, but I think most Albertan's and Saskatchewanians (?) and B.C. ers would have few complaints about merging with the Big 'ole bad USA. Yes I know there are more provinces....Newfoundland, the Maritimes, NW territory etc., but I dont know anyone from thhose areas.

Not that I favor this. Nor should anyone. Canada is a great nation w/ much to be proud of. I just think not everyone up there hates us and our country as much as you think.

[edit on 10/26/2006 by darkbluesky]

Originally posted by darkbluesky
Maybe those in Quebec and half of Ontario, but I think most Albertan's and Saskatchewanians (?) and B.C. ers would have few complaints about merging with the Big 'ole bad USA. Yes I know there are more provinces....Newfoundland, the Maritimes, NW territory etc., but I dont know anyone from thhose areas.

Well, seeing as I'm a resident of BC who has a large interaction with the comunity, I can assure you that local sentiment towards the US is not particularly friendly... Especially since the Softwood scandel cost SO many BC jobs.

As for Alberta, do you understand how hard their ecconomy was hit by false claims of Mad Cow Disease leveled at them by US Mass media?

Then there's the constant culture shock that occures in any Canadian city near the US boarder. Culturally, Canadians tend to value things like Manors, respect, and civility. Americans definatly seem to hold those values to a lesser degree. Thus, we get faced with American visitors who we consider rude and obnoxious.

Yes, yes, it's totally unfair to paint all Americans with the same brush, but this is the general impression that is made.

Not that I favor this. Nor should anyone. Canada is a great nation w/ much to be proud of. I just think not everyone up there hates us and our country as much as you think.

[edit on 10/26/2006 by darkbluesky]

Where did I use the word "hate"? Hate is a powerful word. I don't know anyone who truly "Hates" Americans. Some of us hate some of the actions that the American administration has taken, but to apply yhe word hate to the people of the US... well, that's just ignorant and rude.

Most often what we feel towards the US is pitty for the people and resentment towards the administration.
There's a BIG difference between that and hate!

Originally posted by BitRaiser

Where did I use the word "hate"? Hate is a powerful word. I don't know anyone who truly "Hates" Americans. Some of us hate some of the actions that the American administration has taken, but to apply yhe word hate to the people of the US... well, that's just ignorant and rude.

Most often what we feel towards the US is pitty for the people and resentment towards the administration.
There's a BIG difference between that and hate!

You're correct. Sorry. I over emphasized. Please replace hate with dislike in my previous statement.

Resent our government all you like, but please save your pity for me. It's not needed, and it's unwelcomed.


[edit on 10/26/2006 by darkbluesky]

Bitraiser, I just noticed this statement posted by you on another thread.

: Originally posted by Strangerous
They're making you the new Castro - demonstrating that there is an alternative model for running a decent society / having a sensible foreign policy will never be popular in the 'land of the free'.

I do find it amusing that there is so much hatred in the US for socialistic government and the wide held belife that all socialism is evil. So many Americans are shocked to learn that Canada is, in fact, a Socialist Democracy.

Please be careful in the future when ridiculing other posters for throwing hate around unless you can abide by the same policy!

One more thing BitRaiser.

Here are some results from a survey "What the World thinks of America" conducted by the CBC. You might find the Canadian responses toward the US very perplexing.

CBC Survey