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Originally posted by Nygdan
Again, the koran explicitly forbids forced conversion.
Originally posted by Nygdan
In case you didn't notice, violence in self defense is still violence. Jesus in the gospel and Allah in the koran are very different, allah advocates violence, but in proper proportion and in defense, Jesus doesn't even recommend that.
It woudl be propaganda to say that killing a person that has attacked you isn't violence. It would also be propaganda to equate people moving into islamic territory and preaching against the religion of islam to be a phyiscal attack upon islam that can be justifiably met with murderous violence.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Why should anyone bother with this? He's not a prophet, he speaks for himself and his interpretations of things. Its irrelevant.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Contradictions abound .. just like in the bible. I guess you can pull up whatever you want out of the Quran and make a case for whatever you* want.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
This doesn't say make them convert or kill them.
But it looks like anyone who claims to be Muslim won't have to 'pay the tax of subjection' or be treated like dirt in 'acknowledgement of superiority of Islam'.
Convert or be placed in a state of subjection (slavery??).
Dunno. Guess it's open for many interpretations.
it is very easy to see how some would interpret those verses to 'convert or die'.
The believers are called to war against them. Therefore ... if you don't believe in Islam you are a cursed animal and will die in war.
To say Islam has a policy of 'convert or die' isn't to much of an interpretation stretch.
According to some verses in the Quran, there can be no friendship between Islam and anyone of other religions. They will hate us forever unless we convert.
I guess you can pull up whatever you want out of the Quran and make a case for whatever you* want.
It is a display of narrations [hadiths] and historical facts about the prophet (pbuh) [sirat] , not his own interpretations .
Originally posted by Nygdan
And where did he magically get these facts?
These are events that happened over a thousand years ago, and that have been collected as religious texts, they are interpretation, not facts.
Originally posted by AnarShia
A narration of an event isn't and doesn't tranform with time to somebody's interpretation when it is authentic .
Originally posted by AnarShia
A narration of an event isn't and doesn't tranform with time to somebody's interpretation when it is authentic .
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Quran is full of errors.
This site says that Allah was a moon god, what do you think?