posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 05:36 PM
I'll admit that the EU hasn't taken away any real sovreignty as of yet. They CAN dictate law that takes precedence over parliament AND our own
judiciary system, but yes, this is balanced by parliaments abiliity to withdraw from the European Union. Just look at how the union has progressed.
Firstly Steel, farming, free trade, open market, then quickly into legislation.....social charter....human rights.....enviromental......workplace,
business red tape.....unelected council of ministers, corruption etc etc. Where will it stop? It honestly won't. Thats a massive growth in a very
short amount of time, without fair debate, without education.
Currently the system is undemocratic. No sane person who is against the EU thinks we are superior to everyone. Our country is a mess atm. As mentioned
by Spymaster; our kids can't speak english, can't read or write, lack numeracy skills, show utter contempt for civic pride. Alcoholism and Drug use
is on the rise, Crime is going through the roof. There IS incredible ignorance and apathy for everything civic, sensible and constructive, this is
still no reason to dump everything we've built on. The EU won't solve it. You made a very good point infinite, we are unique countries with
different histories and tradition, thus pooling sovreignty is useless. The EU is a talking shop, that is unelected, we can't agree on a budget, and
the CAP is a scandal.
The only real cultural co-operation i see, isn't the work of the EU, its called globalisation. We can be global, we can look outward. If we want to
look out globally to every country on earth: We do not draw boundaries, group together with a select group of people (wealthy, developed), combine our
millitary, implement trade barriers against third world countries, protect our industries with dubious morality, waste piles of food to keep our
agricultural industries afloat, fix prices- and then somehow claim we are being sensible, liberal, fair, tolerant and peace loving. The EU turns its
back on the world, heck some folk were against Turkey joining for being a muslim nation! (even when its secular).
Many in Europe will tell you that they hate the euro (currency). The only real advantage being ease of use. When was the last time we pooled economic
sovreignty, our economy suffered its worst crisis in the modern age.
If we keep going in this direction at such a strong pace, we will regret it. There has been no thought or consideration.
Blair said it himself, its not what Britain can do for Europe, its what europe can do for us. He knows we are a dwindling power. The EU will maintain
the power and standing that we have left, particularly against the emerging powers of China, India, Mexico, Brazil etc