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Originally posted by Duhh
As I stated before, It is on the Loose Change Forum. Go over there and do a search.You could then post the url here. The fine upstanding people over there have banned me.LOL
At the close of the show, Piper received calls from both Russell Pickering, who has been investigating the 9-11 attack on the Pentagon, and Matt Danner, the son of Sam Danner, who says that he witnessed the attack on the Pentagon. Danner's son disputes his father's claim to have been there at the time of the attack, but Danner Sr. has continued to insist that his story is true. Danner Sr. has been a guest on Piper's program on several occasions and Pickering has raised questions about Danner Sr.'s veracity, including pointing out that, according to his research Danner Sr. never had a pilot's license as he claimed. Piper expressed his feeling that he felt both Danners were sincere and repeated his own desire to "get to the bottom of things." Piper offered a forum for Pickering to join AFP correspondent (and RBN host) Christopher Bollyn to debate the Danner controversy.
Originally posted by PhillyReikiMaster
DANNER DOESNT LOSE CREDIBILITY FOR HAVING WAITED FIVE YEARS TO COME FORTH, ITS SCAREY TO SPEEK WHEN YOU KNOW SOMETHING FIRST HAND, AND THE GOVT MIGHT ERASE YOU...
Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0
But the official report and pictures that i read from the navy showed the crewman and his helmet and neither were destroyed, the helmet had one gash in it along with them stating the helmet saved his life.
Originally posted by Duhh
---This was about the "pilots" son. Oh yeah he's not a pilot, but a dying man.Very Sad this is.Go to LCF tell me what you think. Even tha Loosers sound convinced.IMHO
[edit on 3-8-2006 by Duhh]
Originally posted by esdad71
Please do your 'own' research into something, and find something credible, not a cancer patient who wants some attention
"Sam has described the bizarre scene as something out of the Twilight Zone series, in which nothing made sense"
Isn't This A Sad Story
A man named Samuel Danner has apparently been causing a stir lately by claiming that he witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon. His contention is that the plane was too small to be a 757, and apparently his description matches more with a Global Hawk.
But his story doesn't hold together for more than a few seconds. Eric Hufschmid interviews him here (MP3). One of the first things he says is that while he was driving towards the Pentagon (prior to the crash there) at about 9:35 AM, his wife called him on the cellphone and told him about Shanksville. He also claims that a lot of people were wandering around the Capitol, looking confused. Sounds a lot like after the crash at the Pentagon, not before.
Well, this guy's been getting interviewed by a lot of the CT radio shows since then. Meanwhile, his son, who knows that his dad wasn't anywhere near the Pentagon at the time of the attack (he may have gone there later), has been trying to forestall this stuff. Turns out he's a 9-11 Denier himself, showed Loose Change to his pop, and the father went 'round the bend.
So he posted over at the Looser Forums.
The only thing wrong is that the thread you mention is like 150 pages long or longer. Trying to find the information that is specific to this thread would take a month.
".....Unless for some reason, they want the conspiracy to continue for a while. In doing so, they can then release the photos and say "look at these dumb CTers..."
Originally posted by zappafan1
[If more people (not tooting my horn; it was nothing more than like reading a book), would actually check things out, then the threads would be shorter (maybe) and there wouldn't be so many threads begun by people who either A- didn't like the outcome of a similar thread, or B- refuse to say "I was wrong", and are using the new thread to find more compatriots of like mind.
A good example is the poster whose theory included Haliburton, etc, etc.
Originally posted by niteboy82
Originally posted by Zaphod58
The fan blades tend to shatter into tiny pieces when they're hit by anything. Ever seen an engine that hits a BIRD? A 5 pound bird has the potential to completely destroy a jet engine. For that matter I've seen fan blades cracked and bent from a ROCK going down the engine. The blades would be in such tiny pieces after going through the wall that there would be no way to identify them. You have to remember the pressure that is put on a fan blade. Yes they're titanium, but you're talking about severe pressure on them as they spin.
Absolutely, I have seen a few instances of birds becoming a little too friendly with an engine, and the engine does not like it.
I have to admit though, I am quite convinced by now, and mostly by the evidence shown on ATS and through the work of many members, that it was indeed a plane that hit the Pentagon. In fact, my personal view on the whole conspiracy is that if anything, it may have been allowed to happen. However I do believe there were four planes that day, and I do believe that one of those four hit the Pentagon.
I've just seen no evidence that I can find to be enough to swing me into the belief that there was no plane.
All of that being said (tee hee), is it not also possible that because of the sheer trauma of that day, this witness believes that he saw something that he didn't? This was a horrific day, regardless of conspiracy or not, and we all were affected somehow (generalization for US members), and I know that my memory is not very clear of that day anymore because it left me too dumbstruck to think. Couldn't this be the same for this guy?
The fact that one money hungry nutter has come out and said that he saw a global hawk hit the pentagon does not disprove the official story in the slightest.