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Originally posted by dawnstar
it's wrong for the government to be taken as much money from the people as they are, I don't care where it's coming from or how. but still, the root of the problem is their spending. and, well, look at it this way, they don't think that we gave them enough, they think they should have gotten more, a few trillion dollars more...and well, them not getting it didn't stop them from spending it, did it? nope. they spent it anyways, and some future generation will get to pay the piper.....
that's wrong also.
There are thousands of people who's ANNUAL income is more than 99% of us
The idea that rich being richer filters down to the poorer members of society via job creation etc etc is a phallacy.
the amount some folks have is obscene.
Mr. ______ It is something that you know that we should know about your income?
Originally posted by marg6043
Did you watched Lou in CNN about how the weathy gets away from paying taxes in American with accounts and companies addresses in the caiman Islands?
It was the most devastating thing to know when you are paying taxes on your income as a hard working American. Why can they do that and we the regular Joe can not?
Is a shame.
Originally posted by Astronomer70
As far as I'm concerned they should just get rid of the Estate tax period and while the're at it they can do away with corporate taxes to boot.
Originally posted by zappafan1
There's also a state in New England (I forget which) that allows companies from other states to incorporate in their state. It's quite legal, and benefits everyone who works for or invests in those companies/corporations.
"...and as far as social security, ummm.....the way I look at it is that I gave so much money through my years, I expect at least a little of it back, probably won't get it, but well, I believe the government would be morally wrong not to do at least that much. and, I believe they were morally wrong to raid the account to begin with![/Quote]
REPLY: I agree with you completely, here. It won't happen, but I seem to recall that a law was passed by Congress that, in fact, they have the right to receive SS payments, and don't have to give it back. I DO know that it was before Reagan was President. I'll have to check on it. Yes.... Pres. Johnson is the dick who folded the SS fund into the General Fund.
I'm screaming at them to find a way to get the spending down!!
REPLY: Every time Reagan and Bush tried to cut some of the arbitrary spending, the special interests screamed like crazy. Then there's all the pork spending that Congress-people buy votes with and, of course, those who would rather get a "free" check than actually work for a living.
"....if you give the poor a few extra bucks a week, they more than likely will use it to buy food (could be using food stamps at the present time to do it), or pay their rent...(could be depending on hud at the present..)
REPLY: "Giving them" anything..... the money has to come from somewhere. Food stamps.... cash.... it's the same thing.
it is possible that we could see the trade deficit decrease a tad if we diverted some cash downward...instead of upward.
REPLY: Again, it's not governments job to divert money anywhere; state or federal.
More people started complaining about stuff like this in the 60's (no surprise there). Even poor people were more attuned to reality during the depression.
Pavil.... It indeed is Delaware. Thanks for the insight and info.
Originally posted by zappafan1
Our tax code is over 9 MILLION WORDS, and is just unwieldy to the point in cannot be fixed (it's bad enough that they are acting illegaly). Ask ten people who work there about any given part of the code, and they each will have different answers.
Both Democrats and Republicans insist they emerged as winners from last week's failed GOP effort to cut taxes on multimillion dollar estates and raise the minimum wage.
If the code were reduced and some of the breaks gotten rid of, things could be a lot better. But, those with the capital manage to pay enuff of the right people to get specil laws past so they dont half to pay so much, among other things.
".... a bill that also included ...... research and development credits for businesses, and deductions for college tuition and state sales taxes...."
".... what gives them the right to chose between individuals. it's unconstitutional...it's not within their power to do this!
"..... treat others as you would want to be treated, help those who need help, so the government won't have to. make it so the government doesn't need a half a dozen different agencies helping the poor, a gigantic court system that's now overburdoned beyond belief, and alot of other agencies and departments that are blackholes for money."
"... but that would require some moral integrity from the people of this nation, wouldn't it...?"
Originally posted by RedGolem
I certenaly cant call you wrong. Cutting spending would be a good idea, most would probably agree. Howerver in the reality of the situation it most likely wont happen. For every daller you try to cut there will be five lobbiest convinceing you not to. Not to menchen the mess we have gotten into in the middle east. That is something we will be paying for, for a long time.