I sure would like to know what Chris Gibson and another witness saw flying over the North Sea August 1989, was it the FDL-5, or a Northrop X-17 or A-17 SAF Stealth Attack Fighter. If skeptics question what he saw and how he described it's shape, why was he able to identify a Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker and two Aardvark F-111's, the aircraft in "question" was apparently being refueled by the tanker, this man was an expert at aircraft recognition and dismissed notions that what he saw may have been the F-117 Nighthawk or any other known designated aircraft.

The Ayaks is a Hypersonic Aircraft Program in the Russian Federation. This program was initiated in the former Soviet Union in the late 1980's in response to the U.S. "Aurora" Project; or whatever it is referred to as under the (SAP). The Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) basically gives you the right to access information from the U.S. Federal Government unless it concerns National Security in so many words...

What happens when Foreign Countries say...Russia and China for example become very interested in technology we possess? most likely they will conduct clandestine operations in that Country of interest to gather a substantial amount of intelligence. Take for example the Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA or The Chinese Chengdu j-20, where did these two countries obtain the technology to build so-called Fifth Generation Fighters, I mean wow, what an advancement for Russia and China. It all most seems as if they stole (hacked) or maybe even purchased the technology that built the Lockheed/Martin F-22 Raptor. Take a look at the similarities of the j-20 compared to the F-22, now look at Russia's T-50, they appeared to be a bit more tactful in design opposed to the shrewed design of the j-20. It would make sence to counter a threat with something similar, as far as I know the F-22 Raptor is the U.S.A.F. Air Superiority Fighter and known to the general public; the U.S. It would make sense to me that Russia and China would go to great lengths to build something similar or China and Russia

The North Sea sighting took place August 1989, the Soviet Union in the late 80's initiated a Hypersonic Aircraft Program, The Soviet's advanced their Ballistic Missles, the SR-71 Program ends, strange aircraft sightings and sounds are reported....hmmm

Originally posted by RomanOne
I sure would like to know what Chris Gibson and another witness saw flying over the North Sea August 1989, was it the FDL-5, or a Northrop X-17 or A-17 SAF Stealth Attack Fighter. If skeptics question what he saw and how he described it's shape, why was he able to identify a Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker and two Aardvark F-111's, the aircraft in "question" was apparently being refueled by the tanker, this man was an expert at aircraft recognition and dismissed notions that what he saw may have been the F-117 Nighthawk or any other known designated aircraft.

That tanker was refueling the F-111's and another aircraft that you didnt mention!

Personally, I don't remember reading that Mr. Gibson saw F-111's being fueled, he described an aircraft he did not recognize being fueled, and two F-111's flying alongside, weather on the port or starboard side of the unknown aircraft or the KC-135; I don't know.

Originally posted by MKULTRA

What I'd like to know is how the Aurora goes about running its engines at Mach 6/7 without melting them in seconds... even using fuel as coolant, heat must be a nightmare.

I've read in a couple different magazines that the Aurora uses "RamJet" engineering. Anyone have any info on this?

Ramjet engines use the supersonic shock wave to compress the air they burn. So they don't have any of the turbine compressor guts that a normal jet engine has.

Theoretically, once the plane is supersonic, you could pump fuel onto a cavity in the rear, the cavity being placed at a point of shock wave compression, and it would blast out Mach 3+ thrust.

Also, the last thing I would say is that the SR-71 would burn fuel at around 33,000+pounds per hour. It would need refueling about every two hours to stay at max speed. So "if" we had a supersonic predecessor to the blackbird, it would require quite a bit of tankers to keep it airborne!