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Originally posted by grover
What many on the right fail to recognize, or won't accept or in some cases do not know is that despite the blaterings of such idiots as Mr. Ann Coulter in calling us godless, much of modern American liberalism has deep roots in evangelic Christianity, and as such is centered in the compassionate Christianity that gave rise to such things as the anti slavery, womans sufferage and tolerance movements, the push for public education and the like that grew out of 19th century Christian social activism.
..sparing them the experince of somebody dictating how they think they should pray or worship. It is a private matter.
Originally posted by semperfortis
Borg mentioned me doing an OP/ED on the uselessness of actually voting and I have started it, but I really enjoy your two view points.
Something to think about.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Good. Now if we can get them to stop forcing their sexual mores down our children's throats in elementary school, we can say there is real progress.
No one is trying to force their sexual mores down the throats of our children more than the funnymentalists.
Growing up in the south in the 60's, and not being the most macho of men or a jock, but definately not gay either, I witnessed (and experinced) first hand what happens to the child when their peers decide that they are gay and I tell you it is not pretty. Their abuse was relentless but I was lucky, I could have contracted inside myself and become just as narrow minded and bigoted as they were, instead I decided that I would be damned if I was going to be anything like them and evolved into a very tolerant person, which I did my best to pass on to my step-kids.
We liberals know that that it does not matter the gender of whom you love, what is important is that you love, and that the narrow-minded and intolerant policies of the religious right promotes bigotry as opposed to preventing it. We are also pragmatic, we know teenage boys have been doing their best to get into the pants of teenage girls ever since there have been teenage boys and girls, and generally speaking they are successful...it is not only compassionate, but profoundly practical that they know about sex and sexuality, bith control and choices so that we can have knowing, loving adults. God knows I wish we had some realistic talks about sex when I was growing up.
Originally posted by joshai2334
That's not what's going on with Corporatism. The latest gambit is to create an associated "non-profit" so they can dump their profits into political largesse.
Corporatism is Fascism, as Mussolini said. And stockholders are oblivious; all they care about is the "bottom-line," not ethics or long-term effects. Amoral.
The corporatist/synargist movement is behind a great deal of harm that we are experiencing. Why do you rationalize for them.
Originally posted by BattleofBatoche
ALL THE GOV'Ts in THE ENTIRE World are OUT OF CONTROL!!!!! They have taken too much power and we are a decade away from a global dictatorship.
We always were feudal serfs but the Gov't brainwashed us in public school about our freedoms. Free people don't need a licence to get married, they don't need permission to add a step onto their house, they don't need permission to leave the plantation AKA a passport. The Gov't social workers could never ever come into royalties homes and take away their children even if pure evil was taking place in the household but they'll take your kids away on suspicion without proof. Free people own land and it can never be seized for tax debts.
YOU pay rent via property taxes.
WAKE UP, There are poor slaves, middle class slaves, millionaire slaves but Rockefellar, Rothschild, Warburg, Bronfmans, Sinclairs, Reichmans, Queen Elizabeth & family are the true free people, the rest of us get harvested like chattel.
[edit on 3-6-2006 by BattleofBatoche]
[edit on 3-6-2006 by BattleofBatoche]