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Originally posted by semperfortis
I will say it again, I write this piece now in an attempt to articulate my outrage at the depredations of this deeply corrupt and amoral liberal agenda. These things need to be discussed if we are to have any hope at restoring some sort of civil public discourse in this country.
Thing is the evidences of Bushes lies are a matter of public conjecture (when they have been reported on the liberal media) and I don't need to/can't go running around screaming factsfactsfacts.
I tend to think that the primary reason Grover and the others refuse to write a coherent rebutal instead of shrieking CONSERVATIVE HATE (a rather juvenile response if you ask me) is that they deep down realize how deeply destructive this liable is and can't bring themselves to face the fact that they have been had.
Originally posted by semperfortis
I have no idea how to write an op/ed, but I will tell you why I support the president, if that's ok on here.
First and foremost, I am an American and he is my president. I believe in the Red, White and Blue, I am patriotic and believe in supporting my Commander and Chief. Corny? Gullible? maybe, but it is how I was raised and who I am.
Second, I have been in combat and watched while people made the hard decisions. Decisions made to send ME into a situation that could possibly have cost my life, and I felt sorry for them. Sorry because I saw what that decision did to them emotionally. It was easier to go out and fight, than have to stand back and decide who lives and who dies. President Bush makes those decisions everyday and will live with them the rest of his life.
I can appreciate a man with convictions. Though I am sure this will make some of you laugh, some mad and others argue, I do not care. I believe that President Bush has moral convictions and has held the high ground under all of the liberal hate directed at him. He has held his head up and made the decisions that he believes are correct. The job I voted him in there to do.
I believe the economy is booming at an incredible rate. That is my perception, when in the end all that matters is our perceptions. I am doing better financially than I ever have and the tax cuts are a true relief to me.
I am not easily swayed by the media. The incredible and sometimes subtle, attacks on the President mean very little to me. As I have stated, anything that any of you can find to point one way, can easily be found to point the other. Links? Editorials? Show me one, I will show you one that disputes it. They are all basically BS ( I abhor using those terms, but it fits). This in mind, I can only rely on what I see is actually happening. I base my opinions on that. Not on what the media tells me I should or should not think. I travel extensively and observe first hand this wonderful country and the effects of our robust economy. (Yes, there are always some doing worse, not everything is perfect) I am speaking the majority.
I am a warrior at heart and believe in taking the fight to the enemy. I have and still serve my country, and support the war in Iraq 100%. I appreciate that we have not been attacked after 9/11 and still have most of our freedoms intact. MOST. (I hate the phone scan, but that is another thread) I love that regardless of the polls or favorableness of His administration, he stays the course. I admire His fortitude.
Final note: I have issues with some of the decisions made by this Administration, yet I understand that he is only the President. One man, one section of the three branches of government. To place everything wrong with this country in his lap, is ludicrous to the extreme, or a complete misunderstanding of how our government works.
I consider President Bush to be one of the finest Presidents in my lifetime. Second only to the Great Ronald Regan.
I have tried to write this without any sniping, snide comments, liberal bashing or other words of hate. I read too much of that on here. The fact that we have different opinions should encourage us to engage in complex conversations and not wind up cutting each other because we think differently. (as so often happens on here) I do not in anyway consider myself an intellect, I just really work at staying up to date with the political "goings on" and the affairs that directly effect me.
So this is why I support President Bush, The United States of America and all that she stands for.
OK go ahead, cut away.
Originally posted by grover
Originally posted by ShazamsChampion
Grover I do not know who these mythical people are that believe these things you think. Yes I am a Bush supporter, voted for him twice in fact. No I don't think Jesus would endorse either party, I rather suspect that if Jesus returned to Earth there would be no need for political parties.
Sir you are entitled to your opinion and I will not attack it...despite what some claim I do indeed respect others viewpoints but when I am attacked for stating what i honestly feel to be true, then I will defend myself.
I will address what I quoted of your post though. I have heard many comments like what I mentioned both in person by hard core fundamentalists, and on blahblahblah radio from the likes of Coulter and Limbraugh and Savage to name three. While I know or at least hope those three idiots do not represent the mainstream conservative republican viewpoint, I have my doubts as well. I have also seen comments in the same vein in the local paper, in fact they appear quite often as southwestern Virginia is a very conservative place. I hope that the majority of conservatives and republicans are more intelligent than some of the stuff I have read (and heard) come out of the mouths of its so called representives I cannot help recall John Stewert Mill's quip..."While it is not true that all conservative people are stupid, it is true most stupid people are conservative. "
Grover, Qoting those who make thier living inflaming the passions of thier listeners, and using it to draw conclusions about the beliefs of avergae people is nonsensical. SHould I assume that because you ar eliberal that you swallow every word from the lips of Michael Moore as wholesale truth? Or that you even agree with him on all issues? What about Al Franken, Am I to assume that because he purports to "represent" liberals that all liberals have his self same beliefs?
Do you have any idea how many liberals attempt to use Jesus to justify thier programs?
Have you never seen the Bumper sticker reading "jesus was a liberal social activist?"
Have you never heard a liberal use jesus statment to a young ricj man who wished to know how to gain entrnace to heaven as a justification for wealth redistribution?
Originally quoted by Rwearjr
The advent of "talk radio" in the late eighties-early nineties is largely responsible for this phenomenon. It's no secret that the GOP generally favors Corporations, Big money, and military spending. Whilst the Dems generally favor low to middle class subsidy, environmental (anti corporate,) unions, and the like. Which of these do you think is in YOUR best interest.
One of the common demonized terms (besides: liberal) you hear today is "wealth redistribution." Most GOP politicians use this word to bring forth mental images of people abusing welfare, and high taxation. What they don't ever tell you is that the entire American system is based on "wealth redistribution." If welath wasn't redistributed there would be no capitalism. BTW, what's the difference in "welath redistribution" as the GOP defines it, and giving a SMALL percentage of your taxes to the poor?
Most understood, that while not perfect unions served as a counter-weight to corporate interests, and served by strength in numbers to gain the average American a liveable, sustainable wage, and retirement. Compare the middle class, and jobs that existed then to the McEconomy of today.
I just don't understand WHY anyone would vote AGAINST their own best interest.
Originally posted by dgtempe
I appreciate you. I appreciate your feelings and i appreciate you fighting for me, so that i can live in a free country.
We are lucky to have you, and you will never run across a more loving community than this one!
[edit on 19-5-2006 by dgtempe]
No Rush to Impeachment
As Republicans have become increasingly nervous about whether they will be able to maintain control of the House in the midterm elections, they have resorted to the straw-man strategy of identifying a parade of horrors to come if Democrats gain the majority. Among these is the assertion that I, as the new chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, would immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush.
I will not do that. I readily admit that I have been quite vigorous, if not relentless, in questioning the administration. The allegations I have raised are grave, serious, well known, and based on reliable media reports and the accounts of former administration officials. But none of these allegations can be proved or disproved until the administration answers questions. For example, to know whether intelligence was mistaken or manipulated in the run-up to the Iraq war, we need to know what information was made available to -- and actually read by -- decision makers and how views contradicting the case for war were treated.
We need to know the extent to which high-ranking officials approved of the use of torture and other cruel and inhumane treatment inflicted upon detainees. We need to know whether the leaking of the name of a covert CIA operative was deliberate or accidental, as well as the identity of those responsible. The administration's stonewalling, and the lack of oversight by Congress, have left us to guess whether we are dealing with isolated wrongdoing, or mistakes, or something worse. In my view, the American people deserve answers, not guesses.