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posted on May, 8 2007 @ 07:00 PM
Actually to the poster that spoke about the cat and the frequency having healing properties, there is a very similar concept in binaural audio feedback.

A while back I dated a girl, and things didn't work out but we remained friends, at any rate she was always gullible so when she started talking to me about this I kind of laughed at her, and said that it was all placebo effect, and a result of her belief causing a reality for her, until I tried it myself.

There is a program called i-doser

and it has different programs you can buy downloads of that produce different effects in you from increased alertness,to mirroring somewhat the effects of chemical substances, to putting your brain on the frequencies that it is in in alpha,theta etc brainwaves, to relaxation etc, it is a pretty cool program.

The long and short of my rambling is that by nature I am a VERY skeptical person, and before I believe in anything, I require proof, I went into trying the program convincied that it didn't work, and was very surprised to find that it did.

There is so much about the mind and body that we do not understand, and I find this binaural feedback interesting.

posted on May, 8 2007 @ 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Xeros
Seems like you're right.

The patterns in question on Rosslyn are all on cubes and are hece square so I suppose it would'nt be difficult to decipher once the key is found, which it seems has been in the form of chymatics. The song decipherd can be heard in my previous post.

Samael Aun Weor:

The Revolution of the Dialectic

...The intellectual only sees things through his theories. There are two types of intellect, the commonly known sensual intellect and the intellect which is given by the Being and which is a conscious intellect. There are degrees in the objective reason of the Being and they are measured according to the number of tridents on the horns of Lucifer. When one opens the inner mind, one does not need to verbalize theories, hypotheses and preconceptions. Subjective science is that of those who are enclosed in the sensual mind and of those who live in assumptions. (See chapter XII of “The Great Rebellion” by the same author.)

Pure Science is only within the reach of those who have the inner mind and of those who unfold among triangles, octagons and squares...


One should not confuse intelligence with the mind. In every mind there is a certain sum of intelligent values. We do not need to look for the intelligent values outside of ourselves; the latter are within ourselves...


Godfrey Higgins and Manly P. Hall have also pointed out(elsewhere) the relation of RAS or Wisdom to the ROS(E) of the Rosicrucians:

"The Ishmaelites are the same, I believe, as the Nasareens or Nasourians, or Nesseenes or Nessaries, and the Yezeedis or Yezidis or Yesdes. Mr. Buckingham has observed their similarity to one another and to the Hindoo castes [Travels in Mesopotamia, 8vo., Vol. I, p. 210.]. The Yezdes or in fact Yes-des, that is, the followers of the holy Yes or IHS = 608, are said to worship Satan or Sheitan.

Mr. Buckingham gives an account of them from one Pere Garzoni, who says of them: Ils n'ont ni jeunes, ni prieres; et disent, pour justifier l'omission de ces oeuvres de religion, que le scheikh Yezid a satisfait pour tous ceux qui feront profession de sa doctrine jusqu'a la fin du monde. [P. 212.]

The judgement of the father and the dependance to be placed on him, may be estimated from the following passage, which he gives a little previously: Le matin, a peine le soleil commence-t-il a paroitre, qu'ils se jettent a genoux les pieds nus, et que tournes vers cet astre, ils se mettent in adoration, le front contre terre.

These people are found at present in the Mesopotamia of the Euphrates, near a place called RAS-AL-AIN, (the Fountain of Wisdom) at the foot of what Mr. Buckingham calls Mt. Sinjar, and Ptolemy Mount Masius, in about lat. 37 1/2, on the River Khaboor or Chaboras.

Garzoni says, they hold that the devil whom they worship has resided in Moses, Jesus, and Mohamed; that the devil has no name in their language, byt "Ils se servent tout au plus pour le designer de cette paraphrase, scheikh mazen, le grand chef." [Ibid.]

I have a strong suspicion that these dwellers at Ras-el-Ain, call their chief Scheikh Raz-en, not Maz-en; and that the latter is a mistake; or M-Raz-en has become Mazen. They are a very large and powerful tribe. In their country a Chalcos, an Houran, or Urriana, are found, and in short the evident remains of the Chaldean mythos. In their doctrine the renewed incarnation in Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, is obvious; and the creative and destructive power confounded by them or by Garzoni. In lat. about 35 1/2 is a Sulimania, and near it is a Jebel Judee. [Buckingham, p. 474.]

And we know that the FreeMasons, Rosicrucians, and Illuminati all have roots in the Arab and Islamic Mysteries....

posted on May, 8 2007 @ 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Tamahu

And we know that the FreeMasons, Rosicrucians, and Illuminati all have roots in the Arab and Islamic Mysteries....

Some may believe that but we certainly dont know that.
There is no more proof of that than any other theory and probably less when you consider the sources.

posted on May, 8 2007 @ 08:41 PM
Without Islam, what would Western-Al(Allah)chem(Khem)y(AL-KHEM-Y or the Ancient Egyptian Chemistry of God), FreeMasonry, and Rosicrucianism be like?

If it would even exist at all...

Dante Alighieri knew this, I'm quite sure:

Frederick II corresponded with the Sufi Illuminist, Ibn Sabin.

"The teachings available to the astute European thinker
included such works as Ibn Sabin's Secrets of Illuministic
Wisdom and Suhrawardi's Wisdom of Illumination.

Frederick II von Hohenstaufen, ruler of Sicily,
corresponded with Ibn Sabin, Roger Bacon cites
Ibn Sabin in his own writings, and Suhrawardi's ideas
provided the foundation for Dante's works.

Illuminist teachers distinguish between
ordinary knowledge and a higher form of knowledge called
gnosis, direct knowledge, unveiling, witnessing, and tasting.

"He who tastes, knows."

I haven't looked much into to the contents of that website, but that is certainly interesting to note.

Especially considering the words of Manly P. Hall:

Manly P. Hall: Hermetic Marriage

(1) The Order of the Illuminati, represented by Mohammad, prophet of Islam; Roger Bacon, father of chemistry; and Paracelsus, father of modern medicine.

It is an interesting fact that the present buildings and school of Rudolph Steiner, the German mystic, are located in the grounds of the old estate of Hohenheim where Paracelsus lived.

(2) The Order of Freemasons, represented by the great Robert Fludd, master of symbolism and alchemy, and Elias Ashmole, the unique philosopher.

(3) The Rosicrucians, a sacred organization founded by the mysterious Father C.R.C. after his return from Arabia.

In the mythological city of Damcar he had been educated in alchemy and astrology by Arabian adepts

After him came Sir Francis Bacon, the remodeler of British law. And then Count Cagliostro, the sublime adventurer. And last..., the great Comte de St. Germaine, probably the world's greatest political reformer, and Alchemist by Fire.

These superlative minds leavened the loaf of materiality. And, according to those who study The Mysteries, kept alight the flame of Hermes during the medieval centuries of religious intolerance and bigotry.

The Fraternity of the Rose Cross

Many suspect the Rosicrucian rose to be a conventionalization of the Egyptian and Hindu lotus blossom, with the same symbolic meaning as this more ancient symbol.

The Divine Comedy stamps Dante Alighieri as being familiar with the theory of Rosicrucianism.

Concerning this point, Albert Pike in his Morals and Dogma makes this significant statement:

"His Hell is but a negative Purgatory. His heaven is composed of a series of Kabalistic circles, divided by a cross, like the Pantacle of Ezekiel. In the center of this cross blooms a rose, and we see the symbol of the Adepts of the Rose-Croix for the first time publicly expounded and almost categorically explained."

A debate between the so-called "anti-Semitic" Dr. Malik Zulu Shabazz and the bigoted Sean Hannity:

"The Order of Freemasons, represented by the great Robert Fludd, master of symbolism and alchemy, and Elias Ashmole, the unique philosopher." - Manly P. Hall

Hannity suggested use of Quran in representative's swearing-in same as using "Nazi bible" Mein Kampf

SHABAZZ: All Muslims respect the Bible, but he should have the opportunity. Now, your ignorance, Mr. Prager -- Islam has contributed a lot to America. In the middle of the Supreme Court is -- in the rotunda is a statue or bust of the Prophet Muhammad showing the respect that American law and jurisprudence has for the revealer of the Quran.

Many of our American presidents are Masons and Shriners who got to the 33rd degree and studied the Quran in secret and have the star and the crescent on their fez.

HANNITY: Malik --

SHABAZZ: So Islam is at the basis of Western and American civilization.

[edit on 8-5-2007 by Tamahu]

posted on May, 8 2007 @ 08:57 PM
Manley Palmer Hall was 21 and not a Mason when he wrote most of his books and admits that his knowledge of Freemasonry was limited to a few pamphlets he had read. He simply parroted what he read in other books which were mostly speculation and hoodoo to begin with. A 21 year old with limited life experiance who just regurgitates what he reads does not a scholar make.

That being said I have all his books and enjoy reading them if only for the entertainment value.

posted on May, 8 2007 @ 09:30 PM
Cagliostro was a fraud. Levi made some interesting points but he speaks of magic and not of Masonry. Hartmann was a bit of a space cadet IMO who saw what he wanted to. The rest I havent read completly or at all.

Dont get me wrong. I believe that even if your interpretation is not the one that was intended if it has meaning to you then that is all that matters.
I just want to point out that the origins of Fremasonry are open to speculation and interpretation and the Hermetic origins appear to be the most speculative do to the more..."imaginitive" nature of the sources.

On the whole most Masons are not hard core Esoterics and those that are are a small minority albeit a very vocal and somewhat elitist one.

[edit on 8-5-2007 by RWPBR]

posted on May, 10 2007 @ 06:03 AM
its going to be played may 18th see what happens something might fall of the church the cubes break off? or a door might be found.

posted on May, 12 2007 @ 01:31 PM
Though harmonics are a very powerful thing, I don't believe anything will happen when they play the music.

posted on May, 17 2007 @ 06:14 PM
I've noticed that there are 13 geometric patterns carved, yet only 12 notes to an octave. How can an extra pattern (note) fit into the tune? Maybe someon with bettter musical knowledge could explain this. Perhaps the 13th denotes the correct octave?

I also noticed that the carvings on the cubes sometimes overlap the edges. This also seems odd, as the center ofthe pattern will be on the corner, rather than being centered on one face, as some are. I wonder why this is?

posted on May, 17 2007 @ 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Xeros
I've noticed that there are 13 geometric patterns carved, yet only 12 notes to an octave. How can an extra pattern (note) fit into the tune? Maybe someon with bettter musical knowledge could explain this. Perhaps the 13th denotes the correct octave?

The following, from the Brethren of the Temple or Brothers of the Temple, may explain this:

Types of Spiritual Schools - Gnosis - Practical Gnosticism

...The Initiates of the tantric schools work with the Hydrogen TI-12 (this is the hydrogen of the sex). This hydrogen is processed in the human organism, in accordance with the laws of the musical octaves, from Do to Ti.

The entire human organism is gestated among the matrix with the notes Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Ti. The verb, music, originates all creation.

After being intelligently processed within the human organism, the Hydrogen TI-12 (through the Maithuna, without ejaculation of the ens seminis) can receive an additional shock that will put it in the note Do of a second superior octave. Then, after completely saturating all the organic cells, it will crystallize in the splendid form of an independent, luminous and shining body: in the Astral Body of the Adepts and Angels of the Great White Lodge (the Solar Astral Body).

The average human being does not have an Astral Body; he only has the Ego that travels through the Astral world during the common state of sleep, and after death. The ego replaces the Astral Body.

Really, the Astral Body is a luxury that very few possess.
We need to transmute the lead into Gold; we need to create the Astral Body. This can only be possible with the Hydrogen TI-12

With this in mind...:


Katun A Mayan term which refers to epochs or periods of time, and also to regions or Heavens. The Thirteen Katuns are..

"..thirteen periods of time for each human race. Obviously, the prophecies for each one of the past Katuns of our Aryan Root Race were exactly fulfilled. Presently, we are approaching the Thirteenth Katun. The Mayas say that between the years 2040 and 2043, the Thirteenth Katun will enter into activity. The great catastrophe that will destroy this present humanity, which lives on the five continents of the world, will occur during the Thirteenth Katun...

"Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur.

"Kether, Chokmah, Binah, Chesed, Geburah, Tiphereth, Netzach, Hod, Yesod, Malkuth.

"These are the thirteen Aeons or supra-sensible atomic Regions, which are mutually penetrating and co-penetrating without confusion. The Unmanifested Absolute is beyond these thirteen Aeons." - from The Pistis Sophia Unveiled


(Hebrew) "AIN is the same as SAT in Sanskrit, in other words, the Unmanifested Absolute." - Tarot and Kabbalah

"The Thirteenth Aeon, which is beyond the Twelve Gates, is Ain, Sat, the Unmanifested One. Knocking on the Thirteenth Gate is equivalent to entering the bosom of the Cosmic Common Eternal Father, whose Hebraic name is Aelohim." - The Pistis Sophia Unveiled


"The Interior Elohim is the ray that emanates from Aelohim. Aelohim is the Omnimerciful, the Cosmic Common Eternal Father, the Abstract Absolute Space... Aelohim is the infinitude that sustains all." - The Pistis Sophia Unveiled


"The Thirteenth Aeon is Ain, Sat, the Seity. Beyond the Thirteenth Aeon is the Cosmic Common Eternal Father, and Adhi-Buddha, who is the Buddha of our individual Buddha. Adhi-Buddha is the Father of our Father, but He never comes into manifestation, because He is the Unknowable Divinity. Only at the end of the Mahamanvantara, after having integrated ourselves with our Father who is in secret, do we then integrate ourselves with Adhi-Buddha. This integration with Adhi-Buddha is performed in the Mahapralaya, in the Cosmic Night and within the bosom of the Absolute Abstract Space." - The Pistis Sophia Unveiled

So the 13th Note does not exist, yet IT IS THAT which IS.

posted on May, 17 2007 @ 07:34 PM

Originally posted by junglelord
In the beginning was the Word
thats sound
then came light
sound makes geometric shapes, the sacred geometry and sacred numbers like Pi, Phi, Fibonacci series, Golden Mean all are interlinked to the truth.
Cymatics is the that study.
Pythagorus realized the relationship between music and frequency intervals based on string length
this led to the music of the spheres and hence from the atomic to the stellar and solar system size we find these replicating sacred forms and mathematical relationships

Interesting, is this not?

"The student that wants to elevate himself to the world of Intuition must be a Mathematician, or at least have notions of Arithmetic..."

"...No one was admitted into the school of Pythagoras if they were not knowledgeable about mathematics, music, etc."

- Samael Aun Weor


Logos, Mantra, Theurgy

The Keynote and the Seven Vowels

The Keynote and the Seven Vowels of Nature: I-E-O-U-A-M-S, resound in all of Creation! Each flower, each mountain, each river, has its own peculiar note, its note synthesis. The combination of all sounds that are produced in the Planetary Globe produces a Note Synthesis in the immense core of the infinite space.

Thus, each World has its own KEYNOTE. The combination of all the Keynotes of the Infinite forms the ineffable orchestration of the starry spaces; this is the Music of the Spheres which Pythagoras spoke about...

Geometry of the Word

The word produces objective geometric figures. These geometric figures crystallize materially when they are endowed with cosmic matter.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…All things were made by him..!” John 1: 1.

The geometric figures of words are concretely recorded on a magnetic tape for use in recording sound. Thus, it is enough to pass the needle over the recording tape for all the words pronounced by the speaker to resound with intensity again...

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 03:20 PM
A survey conducted at rosslyn using sound-waves to map the foundations and the surrounding area revealed that there is indeed a vault underneith the chapel, said to hold the nine dead barons and lords of rosslyn, whilst puzzling over the Mason Marks left behind I noticed some of them bear a resemblance to rune's, the rune mannaz can clearly be seen surrounding a square, thrid one at the top.

Does this tie with the norse symbology located on the apprentice piller?
Click here

Also it seems some of them bear a resemblance to symbols for the element's most noticably fire, earth and water.

The survey conducted said they had found evidence of a tunnel leading away to the east. Which they concluded probably headed off into the area known as gardeners brae.

Rosslyn is surrounded by the rich history of the freemasons and most noticably the knights templar. The Knights Templars ostensible purpose was the protection of pilgrims on their journey from the coastal port of Jaffra to Jerusalem. Initially however, there were too few of them to be an effective escort. In any event, for the first nine years of their existence, they were far too busy purposefully digging under the ruins of King Solomons Temple to be offering any support to Pilgrims. It seems clear that during their excavations they discovered something of immense spiritual or material value for they swiftly became very rich and powerful and enjoyed this position for nearly two hundred years until the fall of the Holy Lands.

So I find myself wondering what exactly is it thats hidden under the chapel?

Certainly not the cup of christ, but more likely the Arc of the covernant!

Looking at google earth I cant help but notice there is a lake just east of the sacristy... Anyone fancy going for a swim? Something tells me that lake is man made and probably hides the way into the lower half of the chapel. There is said to be stairs inside that lead down to the crypt below but they are sealed off with a wall. I thought freemasons always dug two entrances into somewhere, or have I been watching too much national treasure?

Also it's worth mentioning hitler himself spent time looking for the Arc and it's noted in history that one poor indervidual who sought to steady it on his horse and cart was struck dead instantly.

So if people want to go down there and start digging it up, I say let them!

Cant help but wonder if the ten commandments are written on a tablet or if whats in that box is the alien version of a sony walkman, "here you go mate, with this you can smite the wicked, part the red sea and cause war for the next 200 years!"

[edit on 1-1-2008 by Brother_Amos]

posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 05:17 AM
If as according to the scriptures it is instant DEATH to touch the Arc of the covernant, please let me know when they plan on doing so, so I can be there with my camera to record God turning them into a smoking potatoe chip.

Do they seek the cup of Christ for his glory or their own?

posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 07:34 AM
So the question remains, what's in the box, the staff Moses struck a rock with bringing forth water was undoubtedly one of the staves use to carry the box. I would even hazard a guess that that's how you remove the lid, using the two stave's on either side.

Seems a little strange that God would hand down his word written on a stone tablet (Didnt he have any paper?). More likely that it's some kind of harmonic weapon which can be used to smite unbeliever's, part the red sea and is probably so dangerous it should probably stay buried.

What better way to inspire the faithless than smiting a few of them just so they all get the message, "dont **ck with God."

Templars arnt the only ones who enjoyed riches, it's also written that Moses had a breastplate made from gold covered in semi-precious stone's.

[edit on 2-1-2008 by Brother_Amos]

posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 08:40 AM
Moses spoke and split the rock, Moses spoke and parted the red sea!

Moses, Spoke into what?

People still to this day marvel at the pyramids of Egypt and marvel at how so much stone could be moved into one place, the isrelites where pursued out of egypt, why, was the pharoh miffed at a few rebelious slaves or was he pursuing them to recover something they had stolen?

Stone-mason's work with stone, yet what can sound waves do to stone?

Or for that matter people, 50'000 volts would certainly leave you looking a little burnt!

The Bible says he came down off the mount glowing, dosnt say anything about him clutching two stone tablets.. People glowing just isnt normal.

People got advised that if they came out in a rash or had pussy boils they should see the priest, radiation sickness anyone?

Lots of accounts of people getting stoned in the bible and I dont mean on hippy tabbacco. One guy found gathering wood on the sabath got stoned to death. Hmm, did he now, or was it a case of "Oi you heretic have a bit of this!" ZIP Crackle Fizz... No doubt that would make everyone jump for joy!

Its also worth noting that one of the pharohs magicians parted the nile to recover a precious stone. I forget the details but certainly worth thinking about!

Here's a link to a book that supports this theory;
Click Here

Still havent found out the magicans name, but dosnt matter that link says it better than I ever could.

So now we all know what happened to atlantis, someone farted too close to the box!!!

What happened to Atlantis?

[edit on 2-1-2008 by Brother_Amos]

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Swissgarud
its going to be played may 18th see what happens something might fall of the church the cubes break off? or a door might be found.

What do you mean it is going to be played on the 18th? Where is it going to be played and how do you know? I think too many of us here have been watching to many Indiana Jones and National Treasure movies. I doubt any stones will fall off or secret doors will be opening. How ever I am very intrigued by this idea of musical notes being some sort of encrypted message. I also believe there is probably a few or more rooms at Rossylan that the general public does not know about nor do I believe anyone is going to be giving ATS a guided tour. As well, guessing what is hidden there would be pure imagination and to guess how the Ark works would be even more fantasy.

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posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 10:45 AM
Have to agree, purly speculation on my part, but it's intreaging, doubt the trust will allow anyone to start digging at the foundations of the place, if there is a secret there, their going to keep it buried.

Whos to say the trusties looking after the place arnt part of a secret sociaty dedicated to keeping the secrets of the place hidden from us all?

posted on Mar, 6 2008 @ 10:44 AM

i think this is the map of the chapel where the tip of the middle bar will point to somewere in the chapel. The circlular one will point to a certain time and date where the map will be revealed. the triangular one is the tomb itself but one of those lines is a wall where beyond it is the Grail. this is my theory

[edit on 6-3-2008 by TheTemplar]

posted on Mar, 6 2008 @ 09:54 PM
My final presentation cross had no rose like the first ones. It looks very much like a budded catholic cross, and I wear it everywhere in plain sight.

Back to the topic. I saw the same show and the code isn't quite cracked. Those notes will correspond to an order of service, and the book is probably long since turned to dust. Its a beautiful place. If you were to take a bible to the center of it you will find after each story a corresponding feature in the chapel. The mystery of the perfect ashlar, its all there. In those days some of the services would have been done according to differing ritual thinking each one would gain different favor from God. I have seen the platter and the markings on it that belongs there. I doubt the cup or the bowl will ever turn up. Legend says the platter bowl and cup match different spots where things are hidden inside the stone. By turning the bowl and cup they orient to different features for different reasons but the platter shows the way to the grail.

or so the stories go.

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