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restoring the original beauty - as the earth orbits

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posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 07:22 AM
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Hello all,

Can you imagine a force of magnitude: 2,380,000,000,000,000,000,000 pounds?

Or have you ever heard of the "MOHO," or the "Plastic Zone?"(see ref 1. below)

Both the "MOHO?" and the "Plastic Zone," are "weakened layers" just below the crust of the earth, that interestingly enough, are not molten, nor capable of any type of action themselves. But they serve a useful purpose in that they are good at helping to form mountains; and they are good at helping to recreate the escarpments (once eroded by time) that once again flow with fresh water cascading anew from un-imaginable heights.



So what is that huge number that I wrote above .. (which now let's rewrite as 2.38x10^21)? Just this - as the earth goes about the daily chore of orbiting the sun, it is held in place by the sun's gravity (like swinging a bucket at the end of a rope). Everything goes as planned except the crust, acting under the influence of that huge force from the sun's gravity, and because of the those two "weakened layers," has developed what we might call a "mind of it's own!" and like a cargo tied down on the deck of a ship, the crust moves just a little bit every once in a while!

And every once in a while, something gives way, and a mountain that wasn't there yesterday (like that one that formed in the Mexican corn field a few years ago) begins to form. Or a split forms in the ocean somewhere and an earthquake (followed by a devastating tsunami) will devastate the surroundings.

These are natural events - that are brought about by natural forces - that lead to the re-creation of the surface in a natural way!

It's called the RB-Effect!

jb
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Reference 1.] The term "Plastic Zone" was coined by Don L. Anderson, in "The Plastic Layer of the Earth's Mantle," Scientific American, July 1962, No 1, Pg. 52-9
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posted on Apr, 26 2006 @ 08:08 AM
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I dont realy see how this is a conspiracy unless your trying to say that tectonics the alternative (it isnt realy) is some sort of conspiracy or the fact that tectonics is taught in schools instead of the RB Effect.

An easy example of this would be to point out Io and Europa, gravitational forces from the moons and Jupiter regularly 'renew' the surface of both moons. The Earth/moon and the sun would account for most activity though its not nearly as violent as the action around jupiter.

I thought this was common knowledge?

Tidal Heating



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posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 08:33 AM
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Hello Murmur and all,

Earth is a very dynamic place, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquake, tsunami, volcanoes, mountains that soar 10's of thousands of feet (with marine fossil buried every inch of the way) .. and an unseen force that changed the rock (visible along our highways) leaving them bent and twisted.

If we turn to tectonics for an answer - if we turn to tectonics for the equations that would define the forces that passed leaving these events to transpire - we will be disappointed.

The answers are not there .. because tectonics does not provide answers - it is a discipline resplendent in descriptive jargon!

Every man made object can be drawn, forces calculated, stresses determined and analysis and predictions made!

The earth isn't any different - it can be drawn, forces calculated, stresses determined and analysis and predictions made! But we have to remove the stones (being the foolish tenets of tectonics) that were placed in our path to prevent us from doing this.

tectonics is agenda - and the sooner we realize that we're teaching our children agenda (in place of science) the better off we'll be.

There is an answer - it is called the RB-Effect and it's primary tenet is that the forces that shape our earth are those very same that hold us tightly bound in solar orbit! They can be drawn, calculated, stresses determined and analysis and predictions made!

But we have to ask our school administrators to get involved.

bc
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posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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Cool! I didn't really consider that, but there is at least some sound theory to it - although you have really dramatized this with a magazine-article type feel.

Could you post some pictures of that Mexican mountain that suddenly is forming? That sounds really fun.

And yes, this isn't conspiracy, but that's okay - this is just some cool info on a possibly new understanding of the way the world works. It deserves some space on the scientific boards!



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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Hello Yarium and all,

Here's why I say tectonics is agenda and not science?

bc] Scientific endeavor identifies those principles that Nature displays, and these in turn are written up in the form of "Laws," .. which are then written in mathematical form.

These laws, and their mathematical equivalents, are what is applied in the design and analysis of all things we know. They are the tools we use to solve the problems at the end of the chapter. They are the tools we use to predict an event - or to render an opinion that a certain consequence cannot come about because it'd be in violation of applicable Laws.

Acceptance of this tenet (a certain consequence cannot come about because it'd be in violation of applicable Laws] is a cardinal fact, and is accepted in all areas of engineering, mechanics, and scientific endeavor!

The lay person might say "Well anything can happen!" But a scientist or an engineer would say, "Nothing happens - but what something causes it to happen?"

Following an event we don't understand - we'd look to see what caused it .. and we'd follow the laws of nature during that investigation, and a solution would be arrived at.

Here's where tectonics falls into the category of agenda, tectonics serves the purpose of supporting geologist's need for long term geological change. And as proof - always keep in mind - if we cannot convert a principle to mathematical form - it is NOT principle in the first place.

They get away with it because the agenda (supporting geologist's need for long term geological change) is too powerful a need - to let a few principles get in the way!

Can we, for instance, apply tectonics to create the equations, that can be used to answer why mountains form? Can we apply it to determine how high a mountain might rise?

Can we apply tectonics to demonstrate the formation of the synclines and anti-clines we see along the highway?

No! Not only are they inapplicable - but the concept advanced by tectonics for forming mountains and (synclines and anti-clines) by colliding continents - is in violation of every single Law and practice put into affect in building structural foundations in every country in the entire world.


Structural foundations in all nations around the world, are designed on the established knowledge that compression forces [hence their associated compression stresses] are dissipated through shear by a leading "compression cone. How is it then that tectonics is able to push up mountains in apparent defiance?"


What the quoted statement means is that as a force (foundation or object set on the ground) .. will be supported by a cone shaped system of opposing forces. That's why (when you look at a bridge support, for instance) a post will sit on a steel plate - the plate distributes the load to a larger slab of concrete, this in turn is supported by a buried foundation. This is a "structural cone" designed to spread the load!

tectonics ignores this - and goes on it's merry way pretending to push-up mountains!

bc
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posted on Apr, 28 2006 @ 09:21 AM
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You already have a thread on this
www.abovetopsecret.com...

and yet, you say that its not worth explaining in detail. Which is it?



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posted on Apr, 28 2006 @ 09:57 AM
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Hello all,

I'd like to make this research more meaningful - by showing you the drawings that we worked from. The earth orbits the sun (as do all the planets) on the plane of the ecliptic - hence all gravitational forces, all sunlight, and all the sun's radiant energy comes to us from along the plane of the ecliptic. We are taught this, but it's not "emphasized" in the classroom - and it should be!

Our maps and thinking are oriented to the equator, but the sun "sees" the earth from the perspective of the ecliptic. Hence when we were calculating the forces and the bending of the crust, we had to use a unique drawing, and we had to calculate the center of mass of the crust relative to the ecliptic. This was the most difficult of all the tasks we faced.

One thing was of benefit. Mountains do not have a gravitational profile - that means that they cannot be "seen" with an instrument that measures gravity (hence the mass of a mountain is invisible). That was a huge benefit, because we could consider the earth's crust as a smooth surface.

Here is our drawing of the earth's crust as the sun "sees" it:
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posted on Apr, 28 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by beforebc
One thing was of benefit. Mountains do not have a gravitational profile - that means that they cannot be "seen" with an instrument that measures gravity (hence the mass of a mountain is invisible). That was a huge benefit, because we could consider the earth's crust as a smooth surface.


This is untrue, just like most of pseudo-scientific statements you post here. Mass of the montains distorts the gravitational field in their vicinity in a measurable way.



posted on Apr, 28 2006 @ 11:37 AM
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There is already a thread discussing this topic here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please feel free to add your contributions there. Thanks.


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