Atlantis and its inhabitants the original White Race?, page 1
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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 04:05 PM by ARES
true i don't know where the atlanteans would have come from then. I was just simply restated things that i have heard. The Disney channel seems to stress that the white race and all the european languages came from a common root in atlantis. True, there is much more evidence to show that we all came from africa, but i think it is interesting to look at the aryan race coming from atlantis. I'm not too sure if it mentions atlantis in this article but it sums up the myth of the aryan tribe and race: click here that race of fair haired, blue eyed people in northern europe that it mentions the nazis thought were from a vanished continent.

In that Nazi occult video on the discovery channel it talks about the Aryan race myth coming from Atlantis and such. And how somehow some aryans were misplaced in Tibet.

Perphaps the lost aryan cotinent was here like Plato said "Right outside the gates of hercules" or something like that today known as the straight of gibraltar:



or perphaps it was even farther up north near iceland like more people believe:


click here

HMM OR MORE LIKELY HERE:


wow, doesn't this look really similar to another map??





For some reason this map is upside down.

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They called Atlantis the domain of Poseidon

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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 04:13 PM by ZeddicusZulZorander
Actually, some of the oldest written records of the human history confirm that the residents of the Iranian Plateau were Aryans (and called themselves such).

The word arya first appears in the ancient Indian sacred text the Rigveda and the Iranian Gathas. The Indian and Iranian terms are directly derived from Proto-Indo-Iranian *arya-, apparently a self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Iranians. The term is also continued in Old Persian inscriptions and other Persian sources from c. 500 BCE onwards, the word Iran itself being derived from it (See Airyanem Vaejah). India is also referred to as Aryavarta, which means "the Land of Aryans". Modern Iranians consider their ethnicity and stock as being "Aryan", and in historical Hinduism, the Sanskrit term took on a spiritual meaning of "noble".

Since, in the 19th cenury, the Indo-Iranians were the most ancient known speakers of "Indo-European" languages, the word Aryan was adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian people, but also to Indo-European speakers as a whole, including the Romans, Greeks, the Germans, Balts, Celts and Slavs. It was argued that all of these languages originated from a common root - spoken by an ancient people who must have been the ancestors of the European, Iranian, and North Indian people. It should be noted that this usage is obsolete. In English, "Aryan", if used at all, is synonymous to Indo-Iranian, or in particular Proto-Indo-Iranian.

The idea that the north Europeans were the "purest" of these people was later propagated most assiduously by the Comte de Gobineau and by other writers, most notably his disciple Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who wrote of an "Aryan race" – those who spoke Indo-European languages and were claimed to be the "noblest" of people.


en.wikipedia.org...

During the 19th century, it was commonly believed that the Aryan race originated in the southwestern steppes of present-day Russia, and including the Caucasus Mountains. The Steppe theory of Aryan origins was not the only one circulating during the nineteenth century, however. Many British, American and German scholars argued that the Aryans originated in ancient Germany or Scandinavia, or at least that in those countries the original Aryan ethnicity had been preserved. This idea was widespread in both intellectual and popular culture by the early twentieth century.


I should think that you would look to history and facts rather than a Disney cartoon movie or the twisted thoughts of a society thinking they were better then all others.


reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 04:06 PM by Nygdan
Originally posted by ARES
The nazis have stressed this,


You cite that as supporting the argument? Nazi concepts of history were completely wrong.

Not all humans came from the same breeding grounds. We did not come from Africa like modern science suggests.

All evidence supports that man is from africa.
But all the white people today are descendendants from the Atlanteans.

There is no such thing as 'white people'. All groups of humans a population that is constantly interbreeding and exchanging genetic material.

And Atlantis was the fatherland for all aryans as we know it.

The 'aryans' were, at most, a tribe from central asia that spoke something like proto-indo-european, not from "atlantis"

Think about it, the Atlanteans were said to have blonde hair blue eyes and light skin,

Er, no they weren't.
and us surviving whites today are their ancestors, from Nordics (germans, Danish people, Sweedish people, etc) to Caucasians (Italians, Spanards, etc)

pale skin and blue eye pigment are genetic traits that can be passed into any population of humans.
And all of our european languages that everyone speaks all have common roots to the Atlantean langauage

There is no 'atlantean' language. Rather, most european languages are related to sanskrit and spread from central asia into europe. The exceptions being things like basque and some slavic languages.

Just think about this all.

Perhaps you should put some though into it. Try using a source other than a childrens cartoon channel.

So, again, the linguistic evidence speaks against the idea that europe is aryan; there is no physical arhcaeological evidence to support it and rather the physical evidence contradicts it; and the genetic evidence completely destroys the idea of 'race' or a genetic 'specialness' of europeans anyway.



reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 07:10 PM by Nygdan
Originally posted by 9ine_Lives
This is believeable, so what was the orginal launguage? English? Latin? i think its strange how soo many launguages have came about over thousands of years and what their origins were. pretty much each country had their own language and their own distinct physical apearance, to say they the atlanteans were aliens is not far fetched at all -every theory is possible.

Possible? Sure. But, consider that

  1. "white people" aren't genetically distinct from everyone else on earth, they look just like what we'd expect a population of humans too look like
  2. The only real classical description of atlantis, from plato, says that the atlanteans ruled over europe and north africa, and that there were already people in those lands, specifically including his people, the athenians, who are white europeans (as much as anyone else really), and that they weren't technologically advanced
  3. There is not continent in the atlantic ocean, its all made up of ocean crust



As far as language, latin is the basis for only the romance languages, that is, french, spanish, portuguese, italian, and i beleive some small ones like romanian and the like. Latin itself is part of a very large language family called the Indo-European language family. It includes everything from english, latin, greek, german, and celtic to hittite, tocharian, sanskrit and hindi. Basically, practically every modern language from madrid to madras. If whites are from a mythical alien atlantis, i'd think that they'd not be speaking a derivation of a language that started in the wild steppes of central asia.
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