posted on Apr, 19 2006 @ 11:11 AM
".... No it`s Israel who steal there land bulldoze there house and commit massacers in Jenin."
REPLY: The entire idea of "Palestinians" and "Palestine" are myths started ny the U.N. for decades. It was the Isreali people who worked for years
to prepare and irrigate the land, and the Arabs weren't interested until Isreal started growing grapefruits the size of bowling balls. There are no
"occupied" lands... they are "conquered" lands, since Isreal won all four wars started by the "Palestinians."
It has nothing to do with land at all.... it is a religious war, and always has been since about 300AD. Look at what has happened so far.... Isreal
gives up some of their land, and the suicide bombings continue. The world maps Muslims use in their schools do not have Isreal on it. If those people
believe their god says this what they must do, then their god is a Pig.... the Devil.
".... # From 1517 onwards Jerusalem was under Ottoman rule.
Jerusalem was never the capital of any Arab State.
# Since 1830 Jeruslem has had a Jewish majority -- at first merely a relative majority, but subsequently an absolute one.
# The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan annexed East-Jerusalem following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. They divided Jerusalem for the first time in its history
and drived thousands of Jews — whose families had lived in the city for centuries — into exile.J ordan denied Israelis not only access to the
Temple Wall but also to the cemetery on the Mount of Olives, where Jews have been burying their dead for 2,500 years."
REPLY: Absolutely correct.
".... There are people on BOTH sides of the fence who would like nothing more then to profit and prolong this war between Israel and
REPLY: What crap-ola..... it has nothing at all to do with "profit", it is one religion trying to completely destroy another.
"....if I remember right, it seemed that clinton was doing a pretty good job at striking a peace deal between the palestinians and the isrealis."
REPLY: Arafat, the tyrant/thug, was offered 95% of what the "Palestinians" wanted, and he turned it down.... of course, those proposals were never
presented to the "Palestinian" people because if he accepted those terms, he would have been replaced. It's not about the land, folks.... it's a
"....then it was like both parties had an all or nothing mentality about jerusalem. maybe we should give the UN control of jerusalem and divide the
rest of the area between the two parties..."
REPLY: It was the UN who started this mess. The world would becme a better place if one of the jets on 9-11 had hit the UN building.
".... And so did the Jews. Furthermore, Israel has not only Jewish, but also Palestinian citizens. I am still waiting for a source you deliver to
proof your claim."
REPLY: he has no proof, merely what he's been brainwashed into believing, the same as four generations of "Palestinians."
".... The word itself derives from "Peleshet", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". The name
began to be used in the Thirteenth Century BCE, for a wave of migrant "Sea Peoples" who came from the area of the Aegean Sea and the Greek Islands
and settled on the southern coast of the land of Canaan. There they established five independent city-states (including Gaza) on a narrow strip of
land known as Philistia. The Greeks and Romans called it "Palastina".
The Philistines were not Arabs, they were not Semites. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name
"Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina" derived from
Did you ever take a look to the Palestinian National Charter [the charter of the PLO] - who definded after the 1967 war the term "Palestinians'?
Probably especially intersting to you in their definition who is an 'Palestinian' is Article 6 of the PNC: "
REPLY: Again, correct.
".... the arabs want to keep making war and Israel responds and occupies."
REPLY: Lands won in wars are not "Occupied."
".... Hypothetical? Why can't this work in practise!?
REPLY: Again, because it's not about land, it's about exterminating a religion. Besides, you can;t negotiate with people who gladly blow
themselves up to kill innocent people. I've asked this in many threads on many forums, and still no-one has provided an answer: show me one time in
history where lasting peace has come through tolerance and negotiations. You can't, because lasting peace has only followed a vistory by one side or
Deep Blue: As for your charts, it appears they came from a rather source.
".... Palestinains are Arabs: The Palestinian people living today in Israel and the GazaStrip and WestBank are Arabs from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen,
Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, and the nations of North Africa."
REPLY: Don't confuse him with facts.
".... Now the Jews than occupy Palestine now, where did they came from?
They came from Holand, Germany, Russia, Ethiopia...."
REPLY: I think you should look at how their appearance; do the"current" jews look to you like Russians or Germans? Really?
".... As far as a Jew is concerned my quote of the New Testament is useless, because they choose to believe that it isn't genuine."
REPLY: There are many things in the New version that have been removed from the Old version, and so many interpretations done that it only vaguely
resembles what it originall meant.
".... Israel shouldn't get anything. That land belonged to the Palestinians in the first place."
REPLY: No comment, other than research would help you in this matter.
"... "How are they the VICTIMS if they are the OCCUPIERS?!"
REPLY: See above; one cannot "occupy" land won in a war started by others. That is like saying America is "occupying" land won in the
Mexican/American War. Unfortunatelt, that is what some are saying here. I wonder how long it will be before we see some mexicans blowing themselves