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Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Originally posted by Legion877
im sorry about your family
Im sorry about your losses as well, but if this all keeps up I think we are all going to lose big and the only people that will be coming out ahead and alive in all this are the big politicians who get to sit in underground bunkers and the Arms dealers who sell their weapons. The rest of us will all just die like dogs.
Originally posted by Valhall
Actually, they did a bit more than that. They promised the same land (for support from each side during the war - and that war was WORLD WAR I by the way) to both the Zionists and the Arabs...that's what got the world into this mess.
[edit on 4-5-2006 by Valhall]
Originally posted by Jamesmickael
Ive never heard about that before - I'm not doubting you but can you provide some link or proof so that I can read up on that please.
If thats true then I agree with you that the British have a lot to answer for.
posted by Riwka “Yes, Valhall. Of course nobody can forget history . . where would we be without our personal and worldly history? Nowhere . . And history went on after that - look at the countless negotiations between Israel and the Arab World . . and violations of that negotiations . . by each . . “ [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by Riwka
Yes, Valhall. Of course nobody can forget history, where would we all be without our personal and wordly history. Nowhere.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
I often read in discussion forums about the suggestion of revisiting the 1948 partition plan.......for me, it seems as if not only people would like to forget that history is an ongoing process, but also that in reality for good reasons NO serious "corpus separatum" discussion had been held for decades.
One has to keep in mind that NONE of the negotiation partner in regard to Jerusalem ever said yes to that NON-binding suggestion - and if we today look back what history showed us, it is easy to see that neither the United Nation, nor Israel nor any arab negotiation partner thought or thinks back to that recommendation to create an internationalized "corpus separatum" for the Jerusalem area.
- There is no basis in international law for the position supporting a status of 'Corpus Separatum“ (a separate entity) for the city of Jerusalem. Like all General Assembly resolutions, the plan for Jerusalem in Resolution 181 voted in November 1947 was only a recommendation rather than an internationally legally binding instrument (like the League of Nations' mandate for Palestine). A basis in international law for a 'Corpus Separatum“ first would have to be created and established - the United Nations never started todo so, because they overthrew that idea for the Area around Jerusalem & Bethlehem etc. decades of years ago.
- If we look into that plan to see which area the united Nations wanted to keep seperate 60 years ago, the seperation plan includded not only Jerusalem but also Bethlehem in the south, Ein Kerem in the west, Abu Dis in the east, and Shu'fat in the north[/url]) – as we can see in todays reality, a suggestion that was nothing more than one of many inappropriate historical attempts made to examine possible solutions for the status of Jerusalem and Bethlehem, Ein Kerem, Abus Dis and Shu'fat...
- Neither Israel, nor the Arab world acceptes the old UN recommendation in regards to Jerusalem.
Originally posted by Valhall
The Jewish Agency accepted the recommendation. The Arabs (as has been typical for most of the attempted negotiations over the past century) rejected the recommendation.
"we can no longer regard the UN Resolution of the 29th of November as having any moral force. After the UN failed to implement its own resolution, we regard the resolution of the 29th of November concerning Jerusalem to be null and void."
Originally posted by Valhall
Also, I'm very unclear why you keep repeating that there is some "nonbinding agreement"
A reading of the various resolutions makes it pretty clear that Israel has more or less just ignored the UN.
posted by infinite:We all know that America always veto's resolutions that go against Israel.
Astronomer68: A reading of the various resolutions makes it pretty clear that Israel has more or less just ignored the UN.
Originally posted by donwhite
OK, Infinite, I give up! The flag on the left, I can’t identify it. The Stars and Bars and the Union flag a/k/a Union jack I recognize. Help me, please. See www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/flagsoftheworld.html
Infinite: Red Hand Of Ulster, Northern Ireland Flag. Smallest Province of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
posted by PaRaSiTe: “It doesn’t matter if the Israelis turn over the whole city . . the Islamic faith does not practice religious tolerance . . all other religions should come into direct submission to Islam. [Edited by Don W]
I believe there will be a dividing of the holy city because the bible talks about the temple being built in the last days it talks about part of the gate being next to the court of the gentiles.
There will be a dividing of land . . there will be a peace treaty for seven years and for 3.5 years it will seem to work. I see something happening with Iran and Israel and the US.
I see a large Arab coalition led by Russia to attack Jews and take all of Israel. I see this happening very soon. God himself will intervene . . the whole world will see that the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the only god.
“ . . If anyone here is a ***true*** Christian then my message is pray for the Jews . . the Lord says “I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you.” You know why America is so powerful? It is because America has blessed the Jews. We have honored them. Sure there are Jews who do nothing to deserve honor but who are we to question what God tells us.
It is our sole act of obedience that brings our blessings.
“ . . if you follow the moral decay in this nation . . we have been taking a harder stand with Israel to keep us out of the international hot seat . . It is the ***true*** Christian’s job to lift up the Jews in prayer . . If you have a Jewish neighbor go meet them . . be kind to them . . pray for them . . bless them . . the ones who bless Israel will have protection from what is to come.
God has made a blood covenant with them through Abraham . . He will honor that covenant forever. No matter what the Palestinians, Russians, China, etc. do God will never let the Jews be wiped off the face of the earth and when you think it is getting close He will pour out his fury on all who try.
I don’t care if you think im a religious nutcase.
I am just telling it how is written The bible doesn’t lie and if its not true then how does it read like the evening news everyday? How many true last day prophecies are in the Koran? Jesus is Lord and true future Messiah to Israel