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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 04:20 PM by StellarX
Originally posted by Icarus Rising
This is not a point of fact, it is your opinion, and you are entitled to it.


Yeah and I'm being iv'e been pretty damn rude so far. Sorry.

Wrong again. The bulk of these advances can be attributed to a very few, very intelligent, people.


You need more than a few thousands to actually construct the industry required unless their just going to leech from the planet while somehow maintaining secrecy. I guess it can be done but what do we have that suggest it was?

Agreed. Have you ever wondered why this is? The secret treaty of 1948 perhaps?


Yes and i have actively investigated some areas of that which i would like more people to focus on instead of trying to find lost 'civilizations'( I know that's not what your suggesting ) and such things.

I don't feel insulted. You gave me some advice, I rejected it completely, no problema, no dilemma.


Well that's rather mature of you ( and i mention it since it's so rare) but i don't really like my good advice being rejected either.

I reject this also, and consider you unqualified to even judge my dirty laundry. Your disagreement doesn't change my opinions.


However much i deserve that your still heading for a brick wall.

I think it has some validity, yes.


Well then were not on the same page or in fact busy with the same book....

We may need to clarify terminology here.

Zionism - a movemnent formerly for establishing, now for supporting, the Jewish national state of Israel.

If you don't think most Jews are Zionists, then I think you may be talking out your butt.


Most Jews are Zionist as much as Christians are Christians meaning not very much or at all. Jewish people do not mind a place in the sun ( pun intended) and will ride the back of the movement that can provide it.

I've been a fisherman all my life and have landed some whoppers in my time.
Now that you have successfully derailed my thread, why don't you just buzz off?


The fact that you imagine the 'battle' in this 'realm' is between Zionist and anti -Semites ( They do not like people of Arabic descent?) is very far from where the evidence led me. Why do you think 'Jewish people' ( whatever you mean by that)' are special enough to have this whole planet revolve around them anyways?

That is the kinda of crazy things one can be led to believe when one uses the OT as primary source material and i wish i could thin of a more respectful way of saying that. The fascination with everything 'Jewish' has to stop; their just people that happen to get average press or VERY bad press depending on the media source.

Stellar





(Mod edit: Fixed a quote overrun.)

[edit on 4/13/2006 by Majic]



reply posted on 5-4-2006 @ 10:38 PM by Icarus Rising
Back on Topic

o.p. by me
The secret treaty of 1948 perhaps?


o.p. by you
Yes and i have actively investigated some areas of that which i would like more people to focus on instead of trying to find lost 'civilizations'


The connection for me between the 'Lost Civilization'
(ever read Lost Horizon, or see the movie?) of the White Russians and the Secret Treaty of 1948 is, I think, the society I postulate they created in the Arctic may have been a party to the treaty, if it exists (it is, after all, secret).

Admiral Byrd made trips to both Poles within 3 years of the end of WWII, a feat in and of itself. Rumor has it his expedition got its butt kicked by whatever they came up against in Antarctica, but his secret diary (if one is to believe all these secrets) claims he was welcomed by the people he somehow found his way to in the Arctic, with instruments malfunctioning, and in the grips of some sort of tractor beam.

Perhaps the good Admiral served as intermediary in the negotiations that lead to the Secret Treaty. He was, reportedly, very concerned about the prospect of another war, or further hostilities, breaking out. There is a quote attributed to him on his early return from Antarctica in 1947:


On his return to the US, Byrd reveals in an interview with a reporter that it was "necessary for the USA to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions" and that in case of a new war, the USA would be attacked by fighters that are able to fly from "one pole to the next with incredible speed".


Is it possible that the Nazis retreated to Antarctica at the end of WWII because that is where the entities contacted through the occult activities of the Thule Society had their terrestrial power base? Could it be that Hitler invaded Russia after signing a treaty with Stalin because he was trying to get at the White Russians? Was he driven to do this by the entities his regime contacted through their occult activities?

I recently noticed the UN logo is a view of the earth from a perspective above the North Pole. I find that interesting.




I am down with the Nordics! They are the good guys.


reply posted on 11-6-2008 @ 11:26 AM by The angel of light
The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

Responding to the Inquiry about the White Russians I can say that as a reputed psychic I have checked the question & the answer that I can give to this mystery is:

They were not just only a minority of the aristocracy, but a whole fallen Civilization.

- With the aid of the Royal Navy after the revolution some very important members of the Russian Nobility escaped from Russia to Great Britain like: The Prince Dmitri Obolensky & his family, together with the Dowager Empress Marie Feodorovna & the Grand Duke Nicholas.

- But during the Russian civil war (1917-1920) about more than 2 millions refugees exit the country escaping from the regions harrassed by this conflict, there were important colonies of Whites in China, Germany and Turkey as well as many were immigrants to the new world countries like Argentine, Uruguay, Brazil, Columbia, Venezuela, Mexico, United States.

- The principal destination for the white & green russians leaders( it is interesting to recall that the white were in general the supporters of the return to the Monarchy but the greens were the ones that were fighting to stablish a modern democracy in Russia) was France. Alexander Kerensky, Ex premier of Nicolas II and President of the provisional goverment of Russia before the Bolshevik coup de etat lived exiled in Paris until 1940 when he decided to emigrate to USA.

- Many of the White Russians were prominent people in the countries in which they arrived, for instance Calouste Goulbenkian was one of the associate founders of Royal Dutch Company, British Petroleum Company and Shell Petroleum Company, he was the most important petroleum entrepreuner of his generation, known in the History as the 5% man.

- Other relevant cases are:


  • Wassily Kandinsky & Mark Shagalov (Chagall), 2 icons of the modern Art.
  • The philosopher Ivan Ilyin, exiled in Berlin & Switzerland
  • The composer, pianist and conductor Sergei Rachmaninoff, the last great representative of Russian late Romanticism in classical music.
  • The Engineers Vladimir Olhovsky & Pavel Trofimoff, the discoverers of the oil resources of Mexico.
  • Mark Aldanov (Mark Alexandrovich Landau), Novelist and mathematician
  • The World Chess champion Alexander Alexandrovich Alekhine
  • The Movie director André Andrejew
  • The philosopher Nikolai Alexandrovich Berdyaev
  • The Hollywood Star Yul Brynner(Yuliy Borisovich Brynner ) very famous for his roles of Ramses in the Ten Commandments and the King of Siam.
  • The Theologian, Philosopher and Economist Sergei Nikolaevich Bulgakov
  • The Bioquimistrian Dmitri Sokoloff, professor of the Instituto Polititecnico Nacional in Mexico city and also of the University of Chicago.
  • Ivan A. Bunin that was the first Russian writer to win the Nobel Prize for Literature.
  • The Theologian and pioneer of ecumenism Georges V. Florovsky
  • George Ignatieff that became a Canadian diplomat and was the recipient of the 1984 Pearson Medal of Peace for his work in international service.
  • The Nobel Prize in Economics Wassily W. Leontief.
  • Elizaveta Yurievna Pilenko, nun and poetess, better known as Mother Maria.
  • The historian Dmitri V.Nabokov
  • The Chess master, entomologist, and novelist Vladimir V.Nabokov.
  • Prince Alexander S. "Obo" Obolensky that was a famous international rugby football player.
  • Colonel Oleg I. Pantyukhov, the founder of the russian scouting.
  • Olga Preobrajenska the best loved ballerina of the Russian Imperial Ballet.
  • Alexander N. Prokofiev de Seversky, a Russian-American aviation pioneer, inventor, and influential advocate of strategic air power.
  • Nicholas V. Riasanovsky, professor emeritus at the University of California, Berkeley and the author of numerous books on Russian History.
  • Mikhail I. Rostovtzeff,was one of the 20th century's foremost authorities on ancient Greek, Iranian, and Roman history.
  • Alexander Schmemann a prominent 20th century Orthodox Christian priest, teacher, and writer.
  • St John (Maximovitch) of Shanghai & San Francisco, was a noted Eastern Orthodox ascetic and hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia
  • The philosopher Lev I. Shestov
  • Igor I. Sikorsky, a Russian-American pioneer of aviation who designed and flew the world's first multi-engine fixed-wing aircraft.
  • Pitirim A. Sorokin,Russian-American sociologist, founder of the Department of Sociology at Harvard University.
  • Victor Starffin, the first professional pitcher in Japan to win three hundred games
  • Otto L. Struve, became an American astronomer.
  • Ariadna Vladimirovna Tyrkova-Williams, a liberal politician, journalist, writer and feminist.
  • Marie Illarionovna Vassiltchikov,a Russian princess who was involved in the July 20 Plot to kill Adolf Hitler.
  • Vladimir I. Yourkevitch, a naval engineer, developer of the modern design of ship hulls, designer of the famous ocean liner SS Normandie.
  • Vladimir Kozmich Zworykin, a Russian-American inventor, engineer, and pioneer of television technology.
  • Igor Markevitch ,a Ukrainian composer and conductor



- Other prominent exiled white Russians of that generation were the Musicians, Artists, Art promotors or ballet dancers of the famous Ballet Russes like: Sergei Diaghilev, Igor Stravinsky, Anna Pavlova, Tamara Karsavina,Mikhail Fokin, Anton Dolin, Sergei Lifar, Vaslav Nijinsky,George Balanchine, Alexandra Danilova, and Igor Yuskevitch.

Without the so important contribution of the Ballet Russes it is impossible to understand the begining of very famous west ballet companies as Montecarlo, Paris Opera, Royal ballet, American Ballet, New York Ballet.

The White Russians were like the last beams of a Modern Atlantis spreaded its light in the Art & Science to the world ,an unexpected gift that came from Russia with Love.

Let me suggest you to check my threads at Predictions & Prophecies related with Russia and its so important role in the future of the humanity:

Rasputin will reappear: the Mother Russia will be Saint Again/
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Fatima secrets Code: the promises of God disclosed by St. Mary for our century/
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks

The Angel of lightness

[edit on 6/11/2008 by The angel of light]

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