Originally posted by Snoopdopey
We have well trained professional troops and good equipment.
SA-80A2 is a decent rifle but frankly mate its a target rifle not an assault rifle, you can get a marksmen at 500 yards to knock down every target but
it does jam and frankly the land rover fault finding system is....dodgy. If something isnt visibly or audibly wrong with the land rover DONT use it,
aka if the windows dont leak then its probably got seomthing else wrong.
Reply: I'm sure it's not that low and if it is really a necessity to defend our country we can manufacture it ourselfs or buy some if we needed ammo
really quickly ie under 24 hours.
Then you obviosly never looked at news then did you?
Squaddies trade armour with off coming patrols to make do, we sspent less money on ammo last year than we did for anything else.
All they gave my son back and his five colleagues was 50 rounds of ammunition. They then deployed them 23 kilometers away, where the radio range they
had at the time was only 15 kilometers, to a notoriously hostile police station where they came under attack by a mob of 500 armed Iraqis.
The above is concerning the RMP soldiers who died in iraq due to bad planning, overstretched resources and lack of equipment.
Reply: We've got about 400,000 forces personnel including reserves. That's quite a bit.
400,000 is only 4 times the number of the BEF in world war one they only JUST held the german army at bay with bolt action rifles, frankly we dont
have the man power to defend the falklands or gibraltar. FACT.
The RN is only going to be using probably what? 9 destroyers? You count how many type 42's there are now and compare the numbers, no matter how
powerful it is we dont have the ships to defend our coastline.
The RAF has no long range ability, if a country hit us beyond tanker refueling range we wouldnt be able to hit them, FACT.
The british army does not have the ability to fight a war away and defend britain , FACT.
Oh and one other note, the type 23's and 22's IE frigates are still in service and there is no plan to replace them as of yet.
You think we will defend gibralter or falklands with torndaos and typhoons? Yeah ok mate, just asking how you going to fly them to gib first BTW? VIA
spain or ascension island?
Falklands has what? 4 tornados there....and imagine the logistical NIGHTMARE of sending any RAF squadron down there! Hell the navy has no air to air
capbility anymore unless we're going to start using stingers.
Reply: Not conscription when you volunteer?
Your telling me we will suddenly make everyone voluenteer for military service? No mate you seriosly overestimate how willing young men are to face
death in the face. Young men will more likely think it smarter to either get on with thier lives best as they can or more precisley walk away.
also in reply to Paddyinf, i'm not and never have been in the forces, but I don't imagine it takes 6 months to teach someone how to shoot a gun.
Ha, it takes me like a week to teach a cadet how to fire a weapon and maintain it but that person will most likely not be a marksmen or be a decent
shot I must say. First week I used the L-98 cadet GP rifle (SA-80A1 on single shot) I didnt even hit the target, hell I didnt even hit the sand!
In truth it takes about 6 or 7 weeks to make a basic soldier but in truth it takes longer to make a real soldier. Hence why the british army has
probably the longest training time of any army.
I imagine there would be a lot of inner city small arms fighting, so the fitness requirements of the british army wouldn't be required in my
Ever tried carry a bergen or an LSW during a fire fight with like 200 rounds of ammo?
Its heavy and it knackers me out and I used to paddle 4-8 miles twice a week for 4 years, I know marine cadets who carry less than that and have had
one faint on me half way through section attack. You know carrying 2 rifles and half dragging a fainted cadet is not easy.
The people of Britain would just help as much as they could to aid the forces.
No they would do what any sane person would do: walk away and try to live thier lives, society now aday is cowardly and fearful.
Reply: I think we shouldn't even be in Iraq in the first place. That's the result of bad government going against the majority of the people.
Fact is we are there, no use griping about the who, whats and whys now that its over and blood is STILL being spilled....I reserve that until the last
shot is fired.
Plus I think if you join the reserves you sign up to the possibily that you may be sent to war? I appreciate it's not ideal but if they are needed
then there's not much we can do.
Fact is reserves are there to support regular forces and bassically provide a standby emergancy reaction force and defend the country while most of
the army is away. Theyare not there to REPLACE the british army when its manpower is axed.
I just said if your going to reply devilwasp, would you please mind not to be so sarky next time. Thanks.
Cant help it, its my nature.