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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:29 AM by Machinator1

Hi everyone , I have been researching the Aurora Hyperjet For 11 or 12 Monthes now and i am quite certain that it exists . judging by the evidence and the matching stories. Last Year I lived On RAF Waddington Base in Lincolnshire ,England . i was coming home from school when i heard the noise of a Engine i had never recognised i saw a shape somewhere between the lines of a YF-23 and a F-117 fly through the sky at about 70 degrees. the plane was completely blach with a silver steel air intake at the belly of the craft. i was going for my phone when the guard grabbed my hand and stole the phone off of me until the aircraft was out of sight.

Could this have Been the Aurora ?
What was it doing in England?

Goodbye for now
Tom , 12 years old

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:39 AM by RichardPrice

Originally posted by FredT
Cool. The reason I asked is the following: Im a avid fan of the SR-71/A-12 and can't remeber if they left contrails at operational altitudes.

Old post I know, but worth clarifying anyway...

The SR-71 and A-12 aircraft had a periscope for the pilot to see behind him, and one of the operationa parameters they had to meet before entering the 'sensitive area' was that they were not producing a contrail. If they were, they would adjust the flight parameters to reduce or eliminate it (accelerate, slow down, change height et al).

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 11:35 AM by StratosFear

reply to post by ShadowXIX

I had a thought about the Aurora and similar hypersonic objects, and I'm starting to think that the classic Aurora we've all come to know is actually just a technology demonstrator for a few new different things. Like, but not limited to
Pulse detonation engines
New high temp skins
Both active and passive STEALTH systems
possible re-entry and space flight(low orbit high atmosphere)
hypersonic, supersonic GPS weapons delivery
Unmanned flight
Hypersonic Anti Satellite warfare. In a Dogfights of the Future episode they were talking about a hypothetical air to air encounter between two hypersonic aircraft that used lasers to destoy their targets(Satellites, missles and other things one would find going really high and really fast, like saucers)

I'm also open to the possiblity that AURORA is not just one aircraft/ship but rather a small squadron of similar aircraft.

edit on 10-3-2011 by StratosFear because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 10-3-2011 @ 03:06 PM by usernameblackbird

Put some comments from difffrent peope in a video clip, maybe this will add light to to Aurora.

www.youtube.com...

reply posted on 11-3-2011 @ 06:28 AM by RichardPrice

Originally posted by StratosFear
reply to post by ShadowXIX

I'm also open to the possiblity that AURORA is not just one aircraft/ship but rather a small squadron of similar aircraft.

If it exists, its most certainly not going to be a single aircraft, its going to be a small fleet of aircraft much as the A-12 and SR-71 fleets were (13 A-12s, 32 SR-71s). Even if the aircraft hasn't actually made it into production, its going to be a prototype fleet of 4 - 8 aircraft simply because you cannot carry out a comprehensive fligth test regime with just one or two aircraft - the aircraft need down time for maintenance, for instrumentation changes and for validation.

The only possibility that it is a single aircraft is if it was a technology demonstrator that flew for short periods of time during the 1980s or 1990s and has since been retired, much like the YF-22A and YF-23A was (although even those had multiple examples of aircraft).

So there exists four possibilities:

1. Aurora flew for a short period of time as a technology demonstrator or development aircraft and was retired. What was it replaced with?

2. Aurora flew for a short period of time as a technology demonstrator or development aircraft and was retired. Nothing replaced it.

3. Aurora is the name for an aircraft type, which went into production after the development phase. This would necessitate a fleet of aircraft to maintain availability.

4. Aurora never existed.

reply posted on 14-3-2011 @ 04:07 PM by mbartelsm

reply to post by StratosFear

The problem of using lasers as a weapon is though they can be very effective, they need both, an amazing amount of energy and a clear weather, if visibility is low (like a foggy climate) the laser will be useless.

reply posted on 21-3-2011 @ 08:00 PM by StratosFear

reply to post by mbartelsm

At high speed static and heat can build up, also a reason for some of these "black project" aircraft is that they could have nuclear based powerplants which could provide huge amounts of power.

reply posted on 21-3-2011 @ 08:11 PM by StratosFear

By now there is probably a high speed recon UCAV that could carry out the mission the SR-71 and any "planned" manned recon aircraft. But before it could fly there would have been a need for tech. demonstrators to gather data and test airframe shape, powerplant, etc. People have been seeing some kind of aircraft producing the distinctive contrails and maybe one day we can all find out for sure.
Look at the need for a capability that needs filled and follow the technology and money. Skunk Works has plenty of secrets.

reply posted on 22-3-2011 @ 04:44 AM by RichardPrice

Originally posted by StratosFear
People have been seeing some kind of aircraft producing the distinctive contrails and maybe one day we can all find out for sure.

The thing about the whole "distinctive contrail" issue is that its trivially easy to eliminate contrail formation from an aircraft these days if you want to do so - the B-2 includes such technology (it injects a chemical into the engine exhaust which suppresses contrail formation) and it was being trialled on the SR-71 before it was retired (contrail formation was a big issue for the SR-71).

I have for a long time considered the contrail issue a false one - I have seen so many weird and wonderful contrails that have been 100% identified as coming from civil passenger aircraft that I don't believe reports to be substantially exciting any more.

reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 11:09 PM by CosmosKid

I know there is a lot of emphsis these days being paid to the contrail/chemtrail phenomena, but looking at this picture, no matter how fast the platform is stated as moving, that contrail just should not hold up that well, over that distance, no matter what may have created it.

reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 11:47 PM by epitaph.one

ive seen normal airplanes leave this type of trail. not one that cuts through clouds, but the swirly cord like, almost as if pulsed trail before.

reply posted on 7-6-2011 @ 10:12 AM by freewareism77

Could it be?