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WMD existed and still do !

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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 07:57 PM
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If anyone already posted this, i appologise, if not ... here it is.
finally there is proof of what i had in mind all along.

Saddam did have WMD's and he moved them to Syria, because he knew the USA would make a move. He took advantage of the UN wastes of time and moved them, he said he prefered to give them a way to Syria and make Bush look bad to the world, than have the American find them.

It is all in a book i intent to get asap, called "Saddam's Secrets" written by General Georges Sada

Bush did NOT lie

I guess it would be nice by now, that people would admit they were wrong all along, and maybe even appologise to Pres. Bush, but of course instead many more lies and conspiracies will be born, such as :

1) Bush paid for the book to be published
2) Chenney owns the Publishing Company
3) Conny Rice stripped for the man and force the man to sign a lying confession
4) The General is a Christian ( and he is ), and he is just covering up for his Christian buddy Bush, trying to get a nice job when Bush becomes USA 's Emperor.

Time to wake up and appologise... or be childish and continue the lies.

Can't wait to see the garbage the DEms will throw at this one.

Yep, now you know why the muslem wolrd is so "outraged"... they know Iran and Syrian got their backs covered. And Saddma's WMD will probably still beused anyway, thansk to the wasting time UN Games.


mod edit, spelling in title

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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:36 PM
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I was willing to give this a read, but then realised it was World Net Daily. Hardly an unbiased source.

Syria?!


Hahahahahahaha...try again, you can do better than that, surely?



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by BaastetNoir

It is all in a book i intent to get asap, called "Saddam's Secrets" written by General Georges Sada


Well, if it is in a book, that you haven't even read, then it must be true. Not as if any crackpot can be put in print. Oh wait, that's not true. Well, still he's a general. Oh wait, the 'distinguished' Wesley K. Clark, who nearly started WWIII by wanting to attack the Russians, when they snuck into Pristina airport before us, was a three star general and Supreme Allied Commander Europe (NATO):

news.bbc.co.uk...


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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by stumason
I was willing to give this a read, but then realised it was World Net Daily. Hardly an unbiased source.

Syria?!


Hahahahahahaha...try again, you can do better than that, surely?


Exactly. And we just gave her 2 more points, as if those matter. If you're going to praise anyone, don't do it from someone trying to sell a book.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:44 PM
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Syria?!


Hahahahahahaha...try again, you can do better than that, surely?


Actually its not as funny as you might think, currently the US House Intelligence Committee is analyzing over thousands of pages of Iraqi documents regarding WMD’s.
They're not saying much so far because the investigation is still not over, however what they have said makes me think those WMD’s may turn out to be more real then we currently think.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23

Syria?!


Hahahahahahaha...try again, you can do better than that, surely?


Actually its not as funny as you might think, currently the US House Intelligence Committee is analyzing over thousands of pages of Iraqi documents regarding WMD’s.
They're not saying much so far because the investigation is still not over, however what they have said makes me think those WMD’s may turn out to be more real then we currently think.


C'mon WP, how much time does a gov't, not the military, need to do this? More than 3 years? I would have thought that it would have been much less with the sattelite tech available.



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by stumason
I was willing to give this a read, but then realised it was World Net Daily. Hardly an unbiased source.



Indeed, a liberal propaganda mill for socialists who support deficit spending, an unchecked growth of hand out programs, feeling up grandmas at airports, civil unions for homosexuals, torture, open borders and amnesty programs, the Clinton gun ban, using Executive Orders to usurp the Legislative branch, etc., etc. You know... Republicans who support Bush, instead of these fine fellows:

www.constitutionparty.com...

What do Democrats have to complain of? Other than the war, which would have continued on, if not escalated, under Bonesman Kerry anyway?


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posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Actually its not as funny as you might think, currently the US House Intelligence Committee is analyzing over thousands of pages of Iraqi documents regarding WMD’s.
They're not saying much so far because the investigation is still not over, however what they have said makes me think those WMD’s may turn out to be more real then we currently think.


Give over, Westy. Your own "Iraqi Survery Group" concluded there were no weapons at all 2 years ago. Surely we're not going to go through this all over again?

Syria? You would have noticed and given the political damage suffered by the lack of WMD in Iraq, you'd think the USA would turn up some sort of proff for this by now?



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 09:37 PM
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But wait a minute - are cracks in the wall finally giving information,



Between March and July 2003, Mr. Gaubatz was taken by these sources to four locations - three in and around Nasiriyah and one near the port of Umm Qasr, where he was shown underground concrete bunkers with the tunnels leading to them deliberately flooded. In each case, he was told the facilities contained stocks of biological and chemical weapons, along with missiles whose range exceeded that mandated under U.N. sanctions. But because the facilities were sealed off with concrete walls, in some cases up to 5 feet thick, he did not get inside. He filed reports with photographs, exact grid coordinates, and testimony from multiple sources. And then he waited for the Iraq Survey Group to come to the sites. But in all but one case, they never arrived.


Sheds doubt on the findings of the Iraq survey group if this info pans out - alas it will probably be buried in the MSM backwaters never to see the light of day because it differs with the absurd I hate Bush crowds ideas and beliefs.

Ex Officer Spurned on WMD



posted on Feb, 12 2006 @ 09:37 PM
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Saddam had WMDs he used them on Iran and his own people. This is all pointless. The only question should be is whre are they now?



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by BaastetNoir
worldnetdaily.com...


Dude...I want 2 mins of my life back.

And biggest load of # ever written, no evidence at all to support this, just some crackpot who was paid money by the US gov.....hardly something difficult for them to do.



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Tasketo
Saddam had WMDs he used them on Iran and his own people. This is all pointless. The only question should be is whre are they now?

They were all destroyed in the mid and late 90's, hence Saddam did not have them when the Bush administration claimed he had them.



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 05:09 AM
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Oh dear God...deliver me.

So, allow me to assess the facts, as it were.


First:

A non-partisan delegation of WMD inspectors fail to locate any WMDs, or even, substantial evidence of such after MONTHS of EXHAUSTIVE searching.

Second:

A damning testimonial against Saddam Hussein from an 'inside' guy is produced more than a year into occupation?

So you must ask yourself the following:

1. Reliable source?
2. Unbiased source?
3. Worldnetdaily?



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 02:22 PM
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Well, here I am...thinking these would be some good news, and that ppl would actually like to know the Adminstration was right after all ( I assumed a United Nation would react this way)...but what was I thinking...

How can I be so dumb, to actually think some ppl would actually admit the possibility of beeing wrong, than stuck their heads in the sand and listne to the sound of their own voices... poor dumb me


So following the line of tought of some of you this book can not be true for several reasons:

1) its biased and only serves to make the President look good
and for what exactly.... He had is 2 mandates, you really think he cares who wins in 2008 ?? He had his victories right in the Dems faces, he doesnt need books to make him look good, there are no more elections for him to win


2) This book serves only to make profit

Ah.... ok..I see...only FREE books are good and Truthfull than ? Well there goes nothing for all the garbaged published by the DEms for the last 6-7 years... I mean they are were not free...lol... that would make the bible real... I mean it is free...

3) I supposelly can not "promote" or "agree" with a book I havent't read yet, because thats dumb....

Isn't it, than, equally dumb to refute it and reject the possibilty that It may very well be a TRUTHFULL book


How low can you go ? Here I am thinking., this would be a bit of possible good news... but for ppl who live in the delusion that they can NEVER be wrong, I guess its not... Oh well... tuff luck


Originally posted by intrepid
C'mon WP, how much time does a gov't, not the military, need to do this? More than 3 years? I would have thought that it would have been much less with the sattelite tech available.


What can I say, you should apply for a job there than, and show them how really good jobs are donne!! Serioulsy, on what grounds do you stand to make a statement like that ? Have you worked in any situation like that before ? thats like telling a dairy farmer " you know... those cows can be milked alot faster"


Originally posted by Tasketo
Saddam had WMDs he used them on Iran and his own people. This is all pointless. The only question should be is whre are they now?


Good to see there are still ppl that think OUTSIDE the Box...true FREE THINKERS !


Originally posted by Manincloak
And biggest load of # ever written, no evidence at all to support this, just some crackpot who was paid money by the US gov.....hardly something difficult for them to do.


Off course
... I assume you have proof that such payment existed ?? right ? Or is that the best excuse you can come up with to not even give this book a chance... thast sad. So the book has no proof to stand on, but you have proof the guy was paid by the US Goverment ...
...Oookkk

The suspicions that Iraq's WMD had been moved to Syria are not new, in fact they have been under investigation for a long time, I'm sure you ppl understand that are several countries and PARTIES that have in their highest interest, suhc weapons are never found.

Here are some links, for the "knee-jerk reactiors".. I know none of the following sources are "reliable" and "reputable", but the Clinton News Network wont make comments on the subject ...wonder why
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1 )

For dirty deals done with Saddam Hussein, France and Russia may take the cake — but that's just the beginning.


Defend Democracy


2)

The Pentagon is investigating reports that Iraqi weapons are being sent covertly to Syria and that they are fueling anti-U.S. insurgents training there, The Washington Times has learned.


Washington Times

3)

Ha'aretz (www.haaretzdaily.com) reports that Syria is violating the UN arms embargo on Iraq. Syria has apparently purchased tank engines, Mig parts, and other weapons, and has secretely delivered it all to Iraq.


Facts Of Israel

4)

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites


Free Republic

5)

Nizar Nayuf (Nayyouf-Nayyuf), a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5,


Liberty Post

6)

WASHINGTON, Oct. 29 (UPI) -- U.S. intelligence officials Wednesday released an assessment that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction have been transferred to neighboring Syria


Veterans for Peace


7) Jawa Report

8)

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.


New York Sun

9)

U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained satellite photographs of truck convoys that were at several weapons sites in Iraq in the weeks before U.S. military operations were launched, defense officials said yesterday.


Photos

10)

Open sources report that there are at least three Syrian facilities currently engaged in producing Chemical Weapons, located near Damascus, Hama, and Safira village (in the Aleppo area).


More Satelite Photos


Here you go... plenty of "unrelieble" literature, that only brsain-whased dumb ppl like me could actually buy. I wish I was as smart as.... well...


Have fun "knee-jerk-reacting" ... I will post more "unreliable" and "biased" sources As soon as I find them
!!!


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[edit on 13-2-2006 by BaastetNoir]



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by BaastetNoir

Originally posted by intrepid
C'mon WP, how much time does a gov't, not the military, need to do this? More than 3 years? I would have thought that it would have been much less with the sattelite tech available.


What can I say, you should apply for a job there than, and show them how really good jobs are donne!! Serioulsy, on what grounds do you stand to make a statement like that ? Have you worked in any situation like that before ? thats like telling a dairy farmer " you know... those cows can be milked alot faster"


That's a pretty limp arguement. With the billions of dollars worth of hardware up there, they would be able to see a guy trying to tell a dairy farmer that "those cows could be milked faster." I'm sure WMD are a lot bigger than that......... and trackable.



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

That's a pretty limp arguement. With the billions of dollars worth of hardware up there, they would be able to see a guy trying to tell a dairy farmer that "those cows could be milked faster." I'm sure WMD are a lot bigger than that......... and trackable.


if they were that trackable, Saddam wouldn't want them ...


I was not talking about manual milking, i meant mechanical work.



posted on Feb, 13 2006 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by stumason
I was willing to give this a read, but then realised it was World Net Daily. Hardly an unbiased source.

Syria?!


Hahahahahahaha...try again, you can do better than that, surely?


Is that how you deny Ignorance?...

Should have known better.....

Anyways, there are other reports which have come up and do show that Iraq did have a wmd program.... Unless you think that the former Iraqi regime was working very hard to get empty chemical warhead missiles as ashtrays, or maybe SAddam did want to fill those chemical warheads with candy huh stumason?.......




BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- As U.N. weapons inspections in Iraq entered a new level Thursday, one team discovered empty chemical warheads and international officials began talking tougher about Iraq's responsibility to be more forthcoming about its disarmament efforts in order to avoid a possible military confrontation.

In another milestone Thursday, U.N. inspectors paid their first-ever visit to the private homes of Iraqi scientists as part of the hunt for evidence of weapons of mass destruction. The homes were not listed as declared sites by Iraq, suggesting that inspectors may be working on an intelligence tip. (Full Story, On the scene)

About 150 kilometers (93 miles) southwest of Baghdad, another team of arms inspectors found 11 empty chemical warheads and another one that needed further evaluation at the Ukhaider ammunition storage area, according to a U.N. spokesman, who said they were all in "excellent condition."


Excerpted from.
www.cnn.com...



BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi officials said they have found four more empty chemical warheads similar to 12 others found last week, the U.N.'s chief weapons inspector said Sunday.

Hans Blix, in Baghdad with top nuclear weapons inspector Mohamed ElBaradei, said on CNN's "Late Edition" that the 12 empty warheads were on the agenda for talks Sunday with Iraqi officials.

"They said they had been surprised themselves" about finding the empty warheads, Blix said. "They were in boxes, never opened -- there were bird droppings on them. But of course they should have been declared and destroyed."

The discovery of four more such warheads -- and the potential to discover more -- raise the question of whether they are "remnants of the past [or] the tip of an iceberg," Blix said.


Excerpted from.
www.cnn.com...


I still can't believe that there are people so naive as to believe the lies from the regime of Saddam, after they were lying to the world for decades up to the start of the war in 2003....

It really makes you wonder why some people are so willing to believe every excuse from the former Iraqi regime, and those who still support Saddam and are loyal to him...

Some claim all this evidence were just "fogotten and Saddam's regime never meant to use them..." Riiiiight.... all those tons of documents found which dealt with wmd, or the centrifuges that were buried for later use were all sentimental mementos that Saddam wanted to keep.....

Just like the scuds and other banned missiles that the regime of Iraq launched against the coalition at the beginning of the war right?.....

"OOOPS.....we forgot we had those scuds loaded, and when we fired we thought we had only artillery rockets loaded.....We left them there for 10 years and never thought to inspect what we had loaded.... We never meant to shoot banned scuds and other missiles at you...we swear....."



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