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Originally posted by Odium
IAF, do not try to debate by throwing insults around.
The man has not called for the muder of Jewish people, you are instead of creating a logical debate attempting to bring it down to race.
In fact, it is a joke - like many peoples actions on here. I'll remember to call anyone Anti-British, because they dislike New Labour? Or Anti-American because they dislike the Republican Party? Sorry, world doesn't work like that.
I called his statements as anti-semetic because upon reading all his posts on this thread and his juvenille insults directed at any who voice their opinions that support the Jews, I felt that his statements where anti-semetic.
Originally posted by grover
You are a fool.
The name, Palestine doesn't appear in the Bible either. What's your point?
Originally posted by IAF101
The point is that the term Palestine refers to the Roman designation of philistinia for the southern part of judea and the coastal plains. It essentially refers to the Roman-Jewish ancestory of the land. The Muslims saw this as a Jewish and thus were against the name. They identified themselves with damasus as I have already said and then changed their tune to suite their needs when the zionists came. Thus it would be wrong to associate the Arab bedouins of the land to Palaestine.
Originally posted by ArchAngel
You are mistaken.
The Brits named it Palestine.
The Arabs saw this as Jewish because they were aware of the Balfour Declaration where the Brits submitted to the Jewish Zionists.
Also the Muslim bedoiuns in that land hated the term "Palaestine" because it signified the Jewsih-Chrisitan heritage of the land and this was repugnant to them. They have NEVER identified themselves as Palaestinians. They always claim themselves to be either Syrian or from the Islamic empires. It was the British, who due to their lack of understanding carved out a land in the middle east called Palaestine which the arabs resented strongly. No prominent Muslim voices endorsed the delineation of Palestine in 1920; all protested it. They directed their allegeince to Damascus and thus calling themselves as Southern Syrians. But the French destroued the Syrian kingdom and thus these "southeners" were left in the dark. They then manuvered around to calling themselves as Palaestinians- who they claimed were the original inhabitants of the land. The British blindly accepted them as so and THAT is how they got their name.
For the same reason massive Jewish immigration followed with the eventual division of Palestine with a racist Israeli State emerging without the support of any of the peaople in the land other than the Jews.
The Actual Israeli State that would be set up cannot be called a " racist Israeli State " at all because Jews are essentially multi-racial with Ethiopian jews, European Jews, Middle eastern Jews etc. Thus equating race to zionism is fallacious to say the least.
big·ot (bĭg'ət) pronunciation
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
As opposed to the surrounding nations in the middle east which are so VERY tolerant of people of the Jewish faith right Arch?
As a form of racism, anti-Zionism is worse than anti-Semitism. It targets the most vulnerable part of the Jewish people, namely, the people of Israel, who rely on the sovereignty of their state for physical safety, national identity and personal dignity. To put it more bluntly, anti-Zionism condemns 5 million human beings, mostly refugees or children of refugees, to eternal statelessness, traumatized by historical images of persecution and genocide.
Anti-Zionism also attacks the pivotal component of our identity, the glue that bonds us together � our nationhood, our history.
When you claim to not hate Jews, but you are against Israel existing, when you warp, twist and pervert the facts, claiming to simply be anti-Zionist should be followed by a nudge and a wink.
I do not think that IAF is a fool or dim, and I know that I am not.
Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Are you incapable of reading, ArchAngel? The alleged land grab was made perfectly clear to be a warped, twisted propaganda lie, so why must you continue to make such statments?
Must I copy and paste another one of my clear posts so that you can see it as a stand alone statement?