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They got caught this time - but what about all the times, they presented the translations of so-called Terror Threat Tapes; how can we know that they REALLY Translated whatever was said on them?
If CNN does it - so do the Other News Networks.
And its pretty Easy, for not alot of people really speak arabic in Western World, so nobody really knows what the hell are they Talking!
Perfect Set for some good old Dissinformation Techniques to be applied.
Originally posted by Djarums
Why don't we go ask Al Zawahiri to perform his next speech in English too?
Oh by the way Souljah... now that you mention it, I'd like to appoint you as team leader to find out IF IN FACT the Arabic media is accurately translating all of the US government's statements from English to Arabic because you know... if one's doing it they're all doing it?
How do I know that the reason so many people in Arab nations hate Bush isn't because their media is translating "Good morning everyone" to "We want to kill you"?
Originally posted by Souljah
First of all, I do not BUY any of the Al-CIAda - Abu-MOSSAD-Al-Zarwqawi - Al-Zawahiri bedtime stories. All those Letters and Videos are out, but how do we know if they are AUTHENTIC.
Originally posted by Souljah
For it was Proved many times, that these are FAKED.
Originally posted by Souljah
So, why should be Belive ANY of these Videos in the First Place?
Originally posted by Souljah
Isn't it kind of IRONIC, that at the Speech about Nuclear Technology, the Iranian President's words are Translated in a Way that quickly Labels him? Those is a Very Important Words to be Wrongly Translated!
Originally posted by Souljah
Let me tell you a story about a Prisoner, who was waiting for the Court order, and it was typed with a LITTLE grammar mistake?
Originally posted by Souljah
And with Millions of People at stake here, that kind of Wrong Translation could cause Wars.
Originally posted by Souljah
You can't Afford such Errors.
Originally posted by Souljah
But Iranian Propaganda Machine is NOTHING Compared to the American.
Originally posted by Souljah
They stand no Chance to the Corporate Media Conglomerate who OWNZ this War of Information - for this is the New Warfare, were the new weapon of mass destruction is INFORMATION.
[edit on 18/1/06 by Souljah]
Originally posted by Vovan
This is not a translation error, it is an obvious propaganda war...
CNN is now allowed back in Iran.
Originally posted by Muaddib
You don't buy the Al Qaeda link?.... well, sorry to tell you that most, if not all countries in the world do say that Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations working with these terrorists exist.
Your "gut feelings" always turn up to be rethoric against the U.S. and to try to show that these terrorists and their ilk are good freedom fighters instead of the terrorists they really are, so your "gut feelings" don't mean squat.
Second, what CIA agent is going to kill themselves by detonating a bomb, when for example, Al Qaeda members were surrounded by police officers of Spain and when these terrorist saw they were surrounded and had no way to escape, the Islamic radicals yelled Allah Akbar and detonated a bomb killing themselves and Spaniard police officers. So, you trying to sell out that Al Qaeda members are CIA operatives is a joke, and one which those members who know the facts, know these claims are nothing more than red herrings to put blame and bash at the U.S. everytime you get a chance.
That's just one example of how wrong you are Souljah, and really, you trying to change facts, among some other people, just so you can blame and bash at the U.S. is getting old.
BTW Souljah, U.S. intelligence is not so bad that they would inadvertently put "fake videos of fake bodies being decapitated with the same clothes and chairs as detainees in Guantanamo"..... You just want to believe anything that bashes and blames the U.S. no matter how stupid it sounds.
Why should we believe differently than you are nothing more than an Al Qaeda agent, disguissing as a "revolutionary who thinks all terrorists are freedom fighters" trying to disuade people from the truth?
First of, you are talking about CNN, from which rethoric against the Bush administration is constant and whose editors have proclaimed that they were inspired by one of your "revolutionary buddies" castro.... So you trying to portray CNN as a "corporate media owned by the U.S. government" is laughable to say the least.
What does this has anything relevant to contribute to this thread?
Originally posted by Riwka
Translation errors always can happen - especially, if a language (like the arabic /farsi languages) is full of 'pictures' (phrases) , dialect terms etc.
Originally posted by Souljah
BUT, that is not the Case here - the Translator Missenterpreted few Very Important Words
Originally posted by wang
Souljah that is what exatly i was thinking.
Is this just the first time they have been caught out, becasue it was so blatent?
I dont know pharsi myself, my girlfriend does though. She is on the board, i will get her to post on this thread. I want to know more about his previous quotes, that he has made. Get the pharsi and th english version and see if the media is twisting the translation to their liking.
I think their should be a investigation into media stations translations after a bomb-shell like this.
Originally posted by wang
I think their should be a investigation into media stations translations after a bomb-shell like this.
Originally posted by Souljah
I STRONGLY Suggest you see the Documentary Power of Nightmares.
Originally posted by Souljah
Because I know you are very Intelligent Guy - you are just thinking in a wrong direction. For you ANYTHING that US does is Sacred and Holy and Justified and Democratic. That my Friend, is your Biggest Error.
Originally posted by Souljah
Just like Yours DONT MEAN SQUAT to me....
Originally posted by Souljah
Don't think so Narrowmindedly - you can do Better!
Originally posted by Souljah
It is all Apart of a BIG Disinformation Campaign, deisgned to Raise the Levels of FEAR among the Population, so that they TRUST and BELIVE their Goverments without any shadow of a Dount (like YOURSELF), and then they can get away with any Crime, Corruption or Conquest that they wish.
Originally posted by Souljah
It is a very well designed and very well oiled machine, and I know you can not Counter it, for you Love the NEWS Country you live in right, and if you showed a little Anti-Americanism, I am sure that your Country would be more then happy to send you back where you came from.
Originally posted by Souljah
And there are MORE links to Al-Qaeda and CIA then to any other Terrorists or Intelligence Agency in the World. You just don't want to Accpet that, because it would break down your Perfect World of Good America versus the EVIL Terrorists, right?
Originally posted by Souljah
Well I am sorry to Inform you, but I am going to Continue Breaking Down your Pefect World, as long as I can.
Originally posted by Souljah
Belive me, US or any Other Intelligence is MUST WORSE then You and I would ever Imagine in our Minds.
Originally posted by Souljah
So Pretty, please, with sugar on top, spare me the speech, how US Intelligence is Great and Noble and all around Good Guys, helping this World, to be a Better Place!
Originally posted by Souljah
Well, you could be Nothing More then a CIA or NSA Agents, acting to be an Cuban Immigrant, spreading the Hatred towards the Castro Cuba and spreading the Pro-American Propaganda, telling us how Great and Awesome your new Country is.
Originally posted by Souljah
So what if its CNN? I couldn't Care less for ANY Corporate Owned Media in the States - Liberal or Conservative, it is all the Same #! They all are CORPOATE, which makes them all Weak to one thing: MONEY. And for a Good Story, they will sell their own Mother. Just like the Fox News says: We MUST Give the Publice WHAT THEY WANTS. So that's what they are doing - giving them what they want, not what is GOING ON.
Originally posted by Souljah
If you would step for a while out of your Anti-Communist, Anti-Terrorst Circle, which you and your buddies made, and come here to Europe, and see how Life is here, you would stop thinking like you are now.
Guarnateed.
Originally posted by Souljah
Well, if you did not UNDERSTAND the Relation between that story and this Thread, then I must have OVERestimated you.
Well, maybe you will Understand sometimes in the Future.
Originally posted by Muaddib
I have seen you claim that murderers are "heroes of the common folk." If anyone has been feeding in disinformation it has been you and some other people who have not experienced what "your heroes" have done.
Originally posted by Odium
What about the United State's Marine's or Air Force? I see people praise the job they do, however they still kill innocent people - the term "collateral damage" is used instead.
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