Originally posted by longbow
Sukhoi doesn't even develop engines nor does Lockheed. The engine is from P&W and it would be foolish to purchase it from the russians, because
russian engines were always worse than american ones. I suppose you meant the VTOL solution used by F-35B and it was not from Sukhoi but from Jak.
I didn't say that Lockheed develops engines.
Now I totally disagree that Russian engines are worse than american ones, during the cold war the single purpose of the US aviation industry was to
figure out why the migs were so much better.
Russians sold engine principle and technology to Lockheed-Martin in mid 90s.
In fact, F-35/JSF uses Russian engine.
The only thing I was wrong in, is saying it was developed by Sukhoi.
F-35/JSF uses same engine principles as Yak-141 and constructed on scheme of Yak-141.
skypioneers.kiev.ua...
As part of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program, the Lockheed Martin X-35 concept demonstrator mock-up above) uses a derivative of the Pratt &
Whitney F119 engine. In short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) mode, the engine drives a shaft which turns an Allison lift fan ahead of the
center of gravity. Doors above and below the vertically mounted lift fan open before it spins up. The rear lift force and yaw control is provided by a
swiveling exhaust nozzle from the engine, similar to that of the Yak-141 (#35). Roll control is provided by two roll nozzles using ducted engine fan
bypass air. The X-35 was selected as the winner of the JSF source selection in October 2001. Lockheed is now developing its operational version of the
concept as a supersonic multirole aircraft to replace the Harrier.
www.vstol.org...
[..]The Yak-141 had its maiden flight some 25 years ahead of the
timeframe set by foreign manufacturers for creation of such a plane.
After the show in Farnborough, Yakovlev design bureau worked together
with Lockheed on Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) programme. As a result,
Lockheed's final JSF proposal resembles... the Yak-141M. [..]
During the summer of 1995, Lockheed Martin announced a teaming
arrangement with Yakovlev to assist in the former's bid for the JAST
(Joint Adanced Strike Technology) competition. Yakovlev's knowledge of
jet lift technology was to prove invaluable. Lockheed Martin was
subsequently selected to build a demonstrator aircraft, the X-35, which
went on to win the JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) competition and will soon
become a production fighter as the F-35.
[..] The swiveling rear exhaust is a licensed design from the Yakovlev
design bureau in Russia, which tried it out on the Yak-141 STOVL
fighter.[..]
AFA website
www.afa.org...
[..]The lift fan approach had the advantage that it minimized hot
exhaust ingestion back into engine, a common problem with STOVL designs
that robs them of vertical thrust. The scheme was similar to that
pioneered by the Russian Yakovlev Yak-141 "Freestyle" STOVL fighter,
which did not enter production. [..]
Faqs.org
www.faqs.org...
www.jast.mil...
"The exhaust from the engine flows through the 3 Bearing Swivel Nozzle
(3BSN). The 3BSN nozzle, developed by Rolls-Royce, was patterned along
the lines of the exhaust system on the Yakovlev Yak-141 STOVL prototype
that flew at the 1992 Farnborough air show."
www.abs.net...
"In 1995, Lockheed Martin signed an agreement with the Russian Yakovlev
Design Bureau and Pratt & Whitney signed one with the Soyuz Aero Engine
Company for information on the supersonic Yak-141 STOVL fighter and its
three bearing swivel duct nozzle. However, Lockheed apparently did not
benefit from the agreement and their return on the investment was
negligible."
I haven't read anything else about the return on the investment being
'negligible'. As it is I think the statement is quite suspect: "yes we
purchased the engine technology from the designers of the world's first
STOVL fighter, but no, we didn't get much out of it, in the end it was
all Lockheed know how!" Yeah, right.
www.aeroworldnet.com...
"In 1992/93 Lockheed contracted Yakovlev on some work pertaining to
short take-off/vertical landing (STOVL) aircraft studies in reference
to the JAST (JSF) project. Yakovlev shared its STOVL technologies with
the US company for several dozen million dollars.
"Former Yakovlev employees accuse Yakovlev heads of taking personal
interest out of the deal with Lockheed, because the official sum of the
contract did not correspond with the value of the information presented
to the US company. The data was on the Yak-141 test program,
aerodynamics and design features, including the design of the R-79
engine nozzles.
After a careful study of those materials, Lockheed - without much noise
- changed its initial JSF proposal, including a design of the engine
nozzles that is now very similar to those of the Yak-141."
www.janes.com...
"Lockheed Martin's X-35 design has a trapezoidal wing planform which
initially featured foreplanes, although these since deleted; STOVL
version embodies a lift fan, shaft-driven by a modified F119 with a
vectoring lift/cruise nozzle developed by Rolls-Royce; lift fan
replaced by extra fuel in the CTOL version. Lockheed Martin also turned
to Russia for technical expertise, purchasing design data from
Yakovlev; and used an 86 per cent subscale model (originally developed
for the CALF project and fitted with a Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220
engine plus an Allison shaft-driven lift fan) for testing"
So as you can see, the JSF runs on a russian engine