If you were an alien what would you say?

Practical excersize in empathy, which in this case would not be a total waste of time. If those who have authority here won't tell us what it is we seek, then, perhaps just speculation and conjecture is necessary.

If you were an ancient race of intelligent beings, what would you say, and what medium would/could you use to say it?

I think the message might go a little like this:

First impressions are still first impressions formed in the mind of an observer who is forming all first impressions from a perspective of "Self Before I serve", so all first impressions that are accepted as truth form an opinion that is of fearing "Service before Self". A fearful outlook on life is why people develop a hatefull outlook on life, and a hatefull outlook on life is why people develop a fearful outlook on life. Spreading either or both is not a very good first impression. And, since our not very good first impression has become the human condition of habitual tendencies, fear and hate dominate all we observe, all we integrate, all we can comprehend, as truths are subjugated to fear and hate. That is the cause. The measurable effect is: All we can create is also subjugated to our programming (cellular genetic code) therefore all we create is still creating fear and hate, which we are communicating through radio waves, in every direction, and since space bends time, then the messages could have reached life millions or billions of years ago. Just because the physical does not survive through time warps and wormholes and black holes, does not mean that frequencies of light are confined to the same laws of the physical. So, it would be conceivably possible to understand how one lifeform could have been listening to their skies a billion years ago and heard a message we sent out yesterday.

We heard you before you were even among us. Be not afraid.

We heard your truths long before you collectively identified your accepted truths and corrected them.

If your mind's intentions are only that of surviving then to survive only requires fear and hate. Can you not see how the only reason hate is justified in your own mind is because you fear that that which you hate you only hate because you fear loosing that which you love, and you love fear because it provides you the tools necessary to survive. So fear and hate only present your mind with 2 ultimate possibilities (from your mindset of fear):

1) Serve those who conquerer
2) Conquer those who Serve

There is another option.

Conquer those who conquer by serving them, before they serve conquering and those who conquer.

From a mindset of fear you can not comprehend how conquering conquerers is just promoting fear and it is that fear that is promoting hate. And it is that hate that creates more fear.

By serving both and permitting free will we grant ideologies of fear and hate to obtain that which they desire most, to provide for themselves the illusion of control and power. But once they are in possession of both control and power their options left are still ruled by fear and fear of loosing what they love most, loosing the powerful control they love more than anything else. That becomes their motivation and their intentions are subject to them.

If you fear the unknown, then how can you continue to ask the same questions, and how can you permit yourself to know the truth when you are too scared to know it, too fearful to overcome the fear of the unknown?

Too fearful to overcome the fear of the unknown?

Then the unknown is all you will know, and knowing the unknown is knowing all that is not the truth.

Take us to your leader. But, you are your leader.

And your leader is a slave to fear.

Please stop spreading fear and hate throughout everywhere, we are not the extension of your will, nor do we consider you the extension of our will with the intent of having you serve us. Not that your current programing is capable of understanding this, we understand you regardless.

How much fun would you have had with your rubix's cube if you bought it, took it out of the package when it was all right and then super glued it so it stayed that way?

You are a great example. We thank you for that, and love you for it.

Thanks for being you,
sincerely,
your celestrial neighbors.

P.S.
Does this answer the question of why you are alone? We are not transmitting our will outwards, this is why the skies are silent. However, we did speak up exactly when you first started listening. It is your fear which is your anti-communication. Your fear prevents you from knowing unknown. Can you come out and play? We don't want to be alone either.

We have provided you the means to communicate with eachother to prevent you from sending forth false advertisement to a wakening world who shall be listening. We can prevent this message from misleading us and give it back to you in a time of our choosing. Please silence the cries of your hell amongst our heavens. You have been deemed worthy by us, but you must be deemed worthy by yourself before you can understand why it is we have deemed you worthy. We are our brothers' keeper, and we keep our brothers from a mindset of serving mindsets that can attain a mindset of serving the mindset of revering life and promoting maindsets based in truth loving truthing, love loving loving, love loving truth, love loving fear, fear loving loving, fear loving truth, and truth loving fear, and fear not fearing, but fear serving loving and serving reverence and serving servants. Fear serving loving and serving reverence and serving servants is as far down as we can communicate with. Fear begot hate and all that those two begot is the abyss.

Thank you for your time.

[edit on 9-12-2005 by Esoteric Teacher]

As I landed my saucer on the white house lawn, I'd come down the ramp and say something like..."Pardon me, is this the Goldberg Barmitzvah" then I'd give dick cheney a wedgy hop back in my ol saucer head down to Vegas and party with some earth girls...anyone who's seen the movie earth girls are easy knows what I'm talking about.

Trust me the line..."Show me this thing you earth females call love" works a heck of a lot better than "this probe is going to feel a little uncomfortable, now please bend over and think happy thoughts"

Spiderj

Well after the orbital bombardment I would say,

'In the name of the Greater Good, I claim this planet in the name of the Ethere-'

Ur..........no, I wouldn't say that, I would give them a choice, to right their wrongs or face destruction, humans are going to ultimately wipe themselves out so why not help them a bit?

**putting quarter in inter-galatic pay phone**

Greetings,

I would like to welcome Earth to the commonality known as the "GALACTIC FEDERATION".

My name is Uder_~fez, and I am chief diplomat for my homeworld. We have been watching you for.....

**BEEP BEEP...PLEASE DEPOSIT ANOTHER 25 CENTS...CHING CHING CHING***

Damn, son of ...oh...we're back on here...ok...

Like I said, We have been watching you for....awhile now..and I don't have any more change so yada yada yada..welcome..we'll be there Thursday and we plan to eat you.

Good Day.

- One Man Short ®

i'd ask were the bathroom was

As the saucer landed on the white house lawn spectaculary, the alien got out walkout over to the white house door and find George W there and say :

Its been a while since youve been down to Area 51 Dubya hows the assimilation plan going?

MischeviouslyMakingFoilHats

Regards

Elf

hey, where is the nerest gas-station?

"Honestly, you go away for a few Kelgars and look what you've done to the place. I knew it was a bad idea to leave you Whales in charge, your too soft! Now we have these hairless monkey-men running around leaving their mess all over the place. I'm docking your allowance whilst I have to pay for the exterminator to come in"

In response to all this unsubstantiated hoopla about press releases from "Star Nation" in recent threads, i would like to pull up an older thread which has a theme of "What would you say to humanity if you were an alien?"

So, can you do better than the "Star Nation" Press Releases????

Speculation is our tool, and friend.

Have at it, and be creative. There is bound to be some truth in it, and i'm sure there are some imaginitive and intelligent enough people in this forum to share some thought provoking insights.

Thanks in advance for your contributions.

*calling Pentagon* Hey, if you guys stop being bitches on earth i'll send everyone a zero-gravity cookie!

Gort, Klaatu Barada Niktu...

tough one...




i think an alien my use thoughts to communicate and not so much speach. but if an alien wanted to say something i think they might want to say something constuctive to help out the human race.

Esoteric Teacher, I am going to speak as if there hasn't been any contact between humans and advanced races.
I wouldn't dare come to this rut. I would fear for my safety. Watching these humans rid of themselves is proof enough that they can never become an effective race in the universe. Humans with too much power have always gone insane with it. Imagine the horrors if they became as equal as these advanced peoples. History would repeat itself, the "white" man took the natives' land. The humans overran the planets in the *place galaxy here* region, millions killed.

Either the Earth needs to be re-taught by these advanced races, or never let them grow beyond there sky.

I believe when the atomic bomb was made there was contact. Just like the US and Iran, Iran must stop it's nuclear divisions. These advanced races could have said the same to the US or pay the consequences dearly. Sound familiar? We are a barbaric bunch, just as we think of Iran and the "axis of evils", the aliens could think the same about the entire human race, just look at our past history. We love to show up the other guy.

We haven't evolved to what we'd like to think.

[edit on 20-8-2006 by T_Nexis]

I could speak for myself if I were to be an extraterrestrial or maybe I should just submit quotes from them.

I think I'll submit some quotes.

"Dude.... I am like so stoned."

"You shouldn't have done that... it wasn't very nice."

"Chocolateh! Chocolateh! Where is my chocolateh?"

"The reason for life is the reason for why you are alive in the first place."

"I like my shrooms stirred, not fried."

"Dyz get away from the controls."

"Why is it always me!?"

"Meat? EWWWWWW!!!"

"Pathetic human scum..."

"What is a minute?"

"what? What the...? What did I just step into?"

"There are two kinds of physical energy, outer physical energy and inner physical energy. Humans are so stupid they can only detect the most basic outer portion of the outer physical energy."

"Poop??? Ewyyyuck!"

"So that is who was mutilating all the cows... hehe... Good thing it wasn't me.... I can't tolerate the smell of dead cow..."

"Raw flesh? Oh heavens no... What do you think I am... a barbarious cretin such as yourself?"

"We prefer the term "advance lifeforms" rather than being called, "extraterrestrials...."

"The oceans are colder than the surface... that's why we are stationed there..."

"If you humans don't stop polluting your atmosphere... your species will become extinct in the next hundred years or so..."

"What is pie?"

I’d have to plan to come down during some kind of UN Summit.
With the press there (and not expecting much), I’d park the ship right over the building and beam down (with a small escort party).

Assuming I wasn’t a hostile alien (if I was, I’d probably go Ack! Ack! And vaporize them all), I’d simply walk in and go to the podium.

“Greetings people of Earth. Long have we watched your progress, and we are here to tell you now that you are not alone in the Universe. You can be a great people, you wish to be, and we would like to assist you in this.

We come to you in the hope that revealing our presence helps you to see that squabbles over land, resources, and ideas are futile when you are able to traverse the stars. Technology can free you for greater things, yet you’ve used it to further enslave yourselves in grinding schedules. We would like to show you how to fully use technology to pursue loftier goals, and add to the knowledge of the Universe.

Though you are not yet ready to take your place as Universal citizens, we would like to help you show everyone that Earthlings desire this, and pose no danger to the status quo. To this end, we offer a sampling of technology that will allow you to colonize your own solar system, find and shape new habitable worlds, and acquire the resources you need. If you can do this peacefully for a time we judge to be satisfactory, we will then approach you with the secrets of interstellar travel.

In addition, we will help you address pressing problems of health, environment, and government, if you will only accept our help. Though we’ve studied you from afar, we look forward to an exchange program, so that we may better understand each other.

As you say, the ball is in your court. Do you, as representatives of your people, wish to embrace this offer of friendship? Or do you feel you need more time before taking this leap. Please let us know. We will give you the time you need to decide for yourselves.

Thank you.”

Earths Tribe,

We have been in contact since the begining, we left certain aspect of ourselves into your reality; So you would get a clue of where your headed.Are only regret is that it has taken you this long to understand "our principles" of flight and Universal Theme.We have taken away our past so you may experience your present.You are Universal Warriors fighting through your own ignorance, which happens to be the field of Earths limitations.We know that you experience for us and we for you.We are an Interplanetary chain of events unfolding right before your eyes.


You have the oppurtunity to become this chain events by unfolding your past which will unfold your present.You are the commadores of experience which will represent us as this Universe unfolds.You are a "reflection" of our past and us your future, oh how the times will change into a millisecond and years feel like seconds.You are in an endless endeavor to create a higher beginning.Think of us as your "Universal Family" that has flown outside of your everday reality into unimanginable worlds.We create, so you won't dissipate.Our technological advances are nothing more than your non physical aspirations transpired.Our physical creations are your spiritual contributions.Take flight and hold on its going to be a bumpy ride.Welcome to the Cosmic Rollerscoaster.

Originally posted by menguard


Earths Tribe,

We have been in contact since the begining, we left certain aspect of ourselves into your reality; So you would get a clue of where your headed.Are only regret is that it has taken you this long to understand "our principles" of flight and Universal Theme.We have taken away our past so you may experience your present.You are Universal Warriors fighting through your own ignorance, which happens to be the field of Earths limitations.We know that you experience for us and we for you.We are an Interplanetary chain of events unfolding right before your eyes.


You have the oppurtunity to become this chain events by unfolding your past which will unfold your present.You are the commadores of experience which will represent us as this Universe unfolds.You are a "reflection" of our past and us your future, oh how the times will change into a millisecond and years feel like seconds.You are in an endless endeavor to create a higher beginning.Think of us as your "Universal Family" that has flown outside of your everday reality into unimanginable worlds.We create, so you won't dissipate.Our technological advances are nothing more than your non physical aspirations transpired.Our physical creations are your spiritual contributions.Take flight and hold on its going to be a bumpy ride.Welcome to the Cosmic Rollerscoaster.

Well said mengaurd. I'll take stock in that!

Well, I, for one (apparantly), thought the original post's quote was excellent, EssoTeach. Did you write it or get it from somewhere else? I kept tweaking it a bit as I read it, but it's great as is, too.