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POLITICS: Canadian Government Falls on No-Confidence Vote

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posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 07:38 PM
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Canadian Prime Minister Paul martin's party has fallen following a no confidence vote. The vote came on the heels of a corruption scandal and will force a rare election campaign during the Christmas holiday season. The vote came after Martin refused to dissolve the government in January which would have triggered February elections.
 



news.yahoo.com
TORONTO - A corruption scandal forced a vote of no-confidence Monday that toppled Prime Minister Paul Martin's minority government, triggering an unusual election campaign during the Christmas holidays.

Canada's three opposition parties, which control a majority in Parliament, voted against Martin's government, claiming his Liberal Party no longer has the moral authority to lead the nation.

The loss means an election for all 308 seats in the lower House of Commons, likely on Jan. 23. Martin and his Cabinet would continue to govern until then.

Opposition leaders last week called for the no-confidence vote after Martin rejected their demands to dissolve Parliament in January and hold early elections in February. Monday's vote follows a flurry of spending announcements in Ottawa last week, with the government trying to advance its agenda ahead of its demise.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


It looks like we may be on the heels of a conservative takeover within the Canadian government. Conservative Party leader Stephen Harper is being put forth as the front runner for Martins position if the parties make gains during the election. Either way, its very interesting to watch this unfold

[edit on 11/28/05 by FredT]




posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 07:57 PM
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all i can say is finally, ive been hearing about this for weeks (and months)



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 08:00 PM
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Wow! A conservative Canadian government? Does that mean the same thing it does here? Can we expect a massive influx of illegal Canadians?



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 08:15 PM
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This whole thing is a big joke and waste of time.

Refer to this thread for my true rage:
politics.abovetopsecret.com...

We are going to get another minority government and nothing will get done.

There is no good choice for the upcoming election. Like I said before, it really is a choice for the lesser evil.

Imagine Stephen Harper in charge... *shudder*

Imagine Jack Layton in charge.... *sigh*

Imagine Paul Martin in charge... Oh wait, that DID happen. *shudder*

Its all pure crap.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 09:06 PM
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Even if the Conservative party takes the most seats in the next election we will still be in a minority government. In fact regardless of who wins we will still be in a minority government.
Recent polls show the Liberal party is still ahead of the Conservative party (barely).
New election, nothing will change. Right now no change is better than change (barely).

We need a political revolution in Canada.

Corruption or destruction, how will you vote?
Poll: Calling all Canucks, who are going to vote for.

Grady, The Conservative party wont last in a minority government. The Liberal party is not even truly Liberal. They are actually just a few degrease to the left of the conservative party. The New Democratic Party is true 'left'. The Bloc Quebecois, well .. they are separatists. What I'm trying to say is the opposing parties wont let a conservative minority last any longer than the passing Liberal minority. The Conservative party will have to be pretty crafty to stay in power.

There are some really good threads on PTS regarding what is going on in Canada right now.

Canadian Politics: Liberals hand out tax gifts
Canadian Politics: No election until after February. (That sure has changed
)
Canadian Politics: Martin warns that a Christmas election risks offending religious groups.
Canadian Politics: How much money will it take?
Canadian Politics: 2nd Non-Confidence Vote
Canadian Politics: Could the Green Party win a seat next election?

I hope I didn't miss any. Dulcimer will post the ones I've missed



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 09:20 PM
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I agree with Umbrax - right now, no change is better than change (barely). The Liberals are ahead of the Conservatives - both suck anyway - and we wll get another minority government. I hope.

I agree with Dulcimer on this:

"Imagine Stephen Harper in charge... *shudder*

Imagine Jack Layton in charge.... *sigh*

Imagine Paul Martin in charge... Oh wait, that DID happen. *shudder*

Its all pure crap.
"


But IMO it's good that "We are going to get another minority government and nothing will get done. "

Given the options, and the fact that they're all hacks for international corporate government, aka the NWO, it's just as well no one will be free to line their pockets without constraint.

Layton might hold back the tide for a while, but the corporations covered off on socialism long ago, so not even the NDP is a safe bet.






posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 09:23 PM
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No wonder Canadians follow American politics. That explanation of Canadian political parties made just about as much sense as Canadian Football.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
No wonder Canadians follow American politics. That explanation of Canadian political parties made just about as much sense as Canadian Football.




It's all the same Grady, believe it or not. Like the boyz who really call the shots behind-the-scenes. The different "political parties" are just a dog and pony show, put on to keep the rest of us distracted.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 09:31 PM
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Grady, having 4plus partied to chose from is more confusing than only having 2, but I prefer it that way.
I think Canadians are so interested in American politics because we are bombarded by American media. Most Canadians know more about America than Canada.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by Umbrax

I think Canadians are so interested in American politics because we are bombarded by American media. Most Canadians know more about America than Canada.


Yep, eh. So much for cultural integrity.


BTW - here's another link:

Canadian Politics: Canada's Patriot Act



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 11:07 PM
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canadian elections are joke.
b.c. and alberta have the same total population as quebec(7.5million), yet they have a
total of 20 less parliamentary seats. thats like 2,000,000 free quebec votes.
canada is not a democratic nation, but a demonstration of election fraud of unbelievable proportions.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 11:39 PM
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Ah, I was wondering when one of the Westerners would start whining. Beat Batoche to it, SPud. Congrats on that.

I live in Ontario, but I still wish I could vote for Duccepe. He seems like the least incompetent option. Geez.

DE



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 11:53 PM
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The only thing that really makes me mad about the west vs east issue is that when it comes to campaign time, the liberals dont even care about places like Saskatchewan. They know they will lose.

They promise the best of things for the biggest populations and spit on the rest because we dont matter.

We only have 1 elected liberal in my entire province.

[edit on 28-11-2005 by Dulcimer]


Urn

posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
No wonder Canadians follow American politics. That explanation of Canadian political parties made just about as much sense as Canadian Football.


hehehe...you GOTTA be kiddin GradyPhilpott...have you ever actually WATCHED american football???

are we (us canadians) supposed to get somthing productive done during the 15 miniutes between EACH and EVERY play of american foot ball?!!!...lol

ya, i know quite off topic....i'm sorry, couldn't resist :p








[edit on 29-11-2005 by Urn]



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 05:19 AM
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I find it amazing that Canadians can be split up into 3 or 4 political parties. Are the views that each party holds that much different that each can support a candidate? Canada is only about one-tenth the population of the US.

I suggest that Canada forget about this election, and join the US political scene as a third-party alternate. The winning party can control both countries.

Before you say no, just think of the first place prize - a one in three chance to govern the US!


If an American party wins, we'll just create a 51st state and call it Canada.
j/k



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 09:22 AM
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Election time has been set for January 23rd.
Enjoy the campaigning during the holidays
.

reuters.com



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 10:57 AM
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Bastards! Donde estad justice, Layton. You were supposed to prevent this.

This is disheartening to the point that I don't even know if I'm going to vote. I mean, the liberals have been screwing us just a little bit each year for a logn time, but the conservatives, should they get into power, will MONUMENTALLY screw us in whatever short time in office they have. NDP will never have any power, the Bloc won't be allowed power.

At least I can call it now: After this election, the Conservative party will once again sunder into its various wacky smaller bits.

DE



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 11:07 AM
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I have a question, with the country fractured as it is right now, how many elections do you think we'll end up having in the next 4 years?



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Urn

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
No wonder Canadians follow American politics. That explanation of Canadian political parties made just about as much sense as Canadian Football.


hehehe...you GOTTA be kiddin GradyPhilpott...have you ever actually WATCHED american football???

are we (us canadians) supposed to get somthing productive done during the 15 miniutes between EACH and EVERY play of american foot ball?!!!...lol

ya, i know quite off topic....i'm sorry, couldn't resist :p








[edit on 29-11-2005 by Urn]


we need that time between plays to get to the keg and use the head mate !!!



posted on Nov, 29 2005 @ 02:18 PM
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Here's a primer on the coming Canadian elections:

Canada Election 2006: Facts and Figures on the Coming Campaign


The one stand out I see is the Bloc Quebecois is slated to increase its position, which means Quebec seperation is more likely than ever. Talking to Montreal today they love the idea of the winter election.

[edit on 29-11-2005 by Regenmacher]



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