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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
This Democrat is no normal Democrat, he is a Ex-Marine and a combat-vet.
He is one of the few congressman with actual combat experiance and combat medals...37 years in the military, so his words carry alot of weight and We have to take him seriously.
My opinion is, if Bush keeps fighting this war as its currently being fought....holding back our air-power....putting our soldiers on trial after every shoot-out....letting the media leak stories that harm our war effort.....than go ahead and bring them home.
Originally posted by Dronetek
Edit: Since you guys like conspiracies so much, perhaps you could explain why it is the major media news outlets seem to be doing as much as they can to damage the president? I always watch the news and ever since the Libby indictment, the news has been almost non-stop "look at these poll numbers!” It seems like every 5 mins they talk about the polls numbers, followed up by Harry ried calling the president names.
The American people voted for this president and support the war. No matter how much the media tried to convince you otherwise.
[edit on 17-11-2005 by Dronetek]
Originally posted by AtlantisAgain
Negotiate with Turkey to allow the Kurds to have a sovereign nation - arm the Kurds to allow them self-defense
What amazes me the most is how the US gov't can deal with this Chalabi
Originally posted by Apoc
Who got to Murtha?
Since this is a conspiracy forum...
Does anyone find it odd that this congressman Murtha is now saying we should cut and run in Iraq?
Before you jump to conclusions, let us think politics for a moment. Have you heard this man's name ever mentioned before in the media political arena?
It seems to me that the political and media house of cards the democrats have built against the Bush administration is collapsing. Their golden media boy Woodword seems to be throwing a monkey wrench into the whole CIA leak case.
The "Bush lied" theme in regard to pre-war intel is falling apart as there are too many dems who had the same intel and drew the same conclusions...and are on record as such.
The timing of this Murtha thing just seems interesting. Here you have by all accounts a decorated soldier calling for an immediate cut and run? Where has he been all along? This seems out of character. Could it be that he has been mandated by the democrat power structure (make no mistakes, the democrat rank and file is kept in check to the party line waaaay more than republicans) to come out as a "armored trial balloon" to see how the public reacts to a the "we can't win, so let's leave" company line?
Something seems odd with the timing of this whole thing...
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
Yeah Soulforge, but the swiftboat vets showed us the truth on John Kerry's war record, so I don't think its fair to compare John Kerry's war record to Murtha's.
[edit on 123030p://555 by LA_Maximus]
Originally posted by chaudri
Why a sudden surge in voices favouring withdrawal from Iraq?
Originally posted by soulforge
John Kerry was also a well decorated combat vet.
Originally posted by shot messenger
Who is Congressman Murtha? He has been in congress for over 30 years and 99.9% of America never even heard of him before this week.
How do you serve 30+ years in congress and nobody ever heard of you before? How do you explain that?
How is it he runs his mouth and you don't see him on TV defending his position. He sent others out to defend it. People said murtha was being attacked. I didn't hear any attack. Why so touchy and defensive.?