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Young singers spread racist hate

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posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 09:52 AM
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I just thought I would add this to the thread.


We were here first.


Hitler says, have a nice day.


Our FrontStormer friends really love these girls. They have lots of threads praising "Prussian Blue".




posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 09:54 AM
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And don't forget. It's not politically correct to 'hate' other races these days so many people hide their hatred and superiority behind what they call 'racial pride'. Yeah, right.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:06 AM
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Umbrax

Cripes. I didn't kow they were actually praising the works of Hitler, and using smileys, no less.
That is going overboard. That is way past racial pride (which itself is kinda dumb, since all people are mixes anyway).

But, although we don't agree with their tactics/decisions, they do have the right of free speech. Although, it might not be free when you take into account the cost of their lives taken.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And don't forget. It's not politically correct to 'hate' other races these days so many people hide their hatred and superiority behind what they call 'racial pride'. Yeah, right.


Racial Pride is different. Although, it would seem that haters do hide in the midst of it.

To me, racial pride is nothing more than appreciating where you came from.
I love the fact that my ancestors were Vikings, loved the water, and traveled most of the earth thousands of years ago. Do I think that I'm better or more intelligent than someone from Africa? Of course not! I know I sure wouldn't want to live in 120 degree weather and not be able to play like a troll in the woods. But, people like different things for different reasons, you can't hate them because of that (at least you shouldn't).

These girls, however, are not about racial pride, but about racial superiority. But that's probably a problem that will never go away with any race.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
This is old, i remember hearing about this years ago.

If they want to sing about white pride, let them. Some rappers have been accused of being Pro Black, so i dont see the problem. Is not like their going to hit the US Charts


Being "pro-black" is one thing, calling for the death of all blacks and "muddled" races is quite another. There's no comparison between the two.

They don't sing about "white-pride", they sing about hate and superiority above other races.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:29 AM
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You're right Fred, I couldn't get past the Olsen twin reference. Upon further review after seeing the lyrics, I agree the songs are hateful.

Now let me break this down another way.

I certainly don't blame these girls. It's obvious where the hate is originating. They're just parrots. But there's another problem I have with this whole thing. It's funny how ABC is reporting this. The hypocrisy is unbelievable! If anyone is going to be responsible for destroying our youth, you better damn well be sure it's gonna be Disney. I think Disney sees these girls as a threat. It's obvious that these are two attractive young girls. In a few years it's not going to matter at all what the words coming out of their mouths are, it's just going to matter about how they look. The boys are going to be falling all over themselves about these two. I think Disney's doing this to either try to destroy these two before they ever get a chance to take away from their piece of the pie, or Disney is going to try and lure these girls to them and change them into wholesome (
) Disney girls. It's all based on how these two young girls look. If they didn't look like that I guarantee you ABC would not be reporting this.

Disney does more damage to the youth of the world than these two girls could ever begin to do.

Watch and see if what I say doesn't happen.

Peace



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:31 AM
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Hi All,

I know that this is can be a sensitive subject, and there can be miscommunication and misunderstanding of one's opinion. I was pretty hesitant to post my own comment, however I believe that this relates to an important issue that I personally find important.

As a black person, I have experienced racism first hand from White, Black, Taiwnease, and Japanese people. From my own people I have experienced accusations of not being "black" enough. While some people might not consider that racist, I have experienced situations where the people who would say something like that, also feel that the world would be better without white people. They also tend to espouse racist comments about people from other cultures. (I am being general here, as I am speaking of individual people that I have encountered) I do not enjoy the pain that comes pre-packaged with someone who despises you for not being "like-them". In my opinion, racism is one of the most destructive states of mind that our world contends with.

With that being said, I will first say that loving ones-self is a great thing. We should all have such feelings about ourselves. Expressing ones opinion is something that I firmly beleive in. However, ensiting hatred towards another person and/or race is, a horrible thing. I will not go into the hows or whys here. These young girls have been molded from a young age to have the beliefs that they do. They did not come to their current thoughts through the trials and tribulations of life.

While reading this article :
Rising Stars Prussian Blue I thought that this paricular quote was quite telling on the girls thought processes.



What do you think is the most important social issue facing the white race right now? Do you have any songs that address this issue?
Not having enough white babies born to replace ourselves and generally not having good-quality white people being born. It seems like smart white girls who have good eugenics are more interested in making money in a career or partying than getting married and having a family. And yes, we are working on some new songs about this issue.


To me, this reads like even being white isnt enough. They envision the "perfect" white person as someone who of good "quality" and who knows their place, such as women sticking to marriage and babies. This is similar to my experiences of not being "black" enough for people of my own race. In my opinion, these girls, and anyone else who believes that one race is "superior" or better than another, are selling themselves short, and are the fuel for violence. I truely wish the world were not like this. I wish we could love, and respect one another, because we would be able to accomplis SO much as a unified people.

This is what I wish to be, but know can never be, with the state of our world today. When I hear stories like this, my heart breaks and I want to cry. However, I have found that I dont actually cry like I used to, because I have accepted that this is the way of things, unfortunately.
I instead try to be the person who ca look past the surface and see the spirit inside.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:43 AM
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Well, any band who likes Alison Krauss can't be all bad.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 10:47 AM
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For those of you that believe that racial pride is not a form of racism, then you are rudly mistaken.

'Cultural pride', yes I can understand. 'Racial pride' is absurd.

Racial pride is the preservation of an antiquated idealogy that mankind is split (by nature) into sub-species. A Homo-Sapien is a Homo-Sapien. Stephen Jay Gould boldy proved this with his book 'The Mismeasure of Man'.

All this recent racial talk on ATS, seems like we are being Storm Fronted, doesnt it?



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Simulacra
For those of you that believe that racial pride is not a form of racism, then you are rudly mistaken.

'Cultural pride', yes I can understand. 'Racial pride' is absurd.

Racial pride is the preservation of an antiquated idealogy that mankind is split (by nature) into sub-species. A Homo-Sapien is a Homo-Sapien. Stephen Jay Gould boldy proved this with his book 'The Mismeasure of Man'.

All this recent racial talk on ATS, seems like we are being Storm Fronted, doesnt it?


After thousands of years of seperation, yes, they are different. But it doesn't make one better than the other, only better in the environment that they evolved in. You can't take an Eskimo and have him grow up comfortably in Nigeria or in the South Pacific. Genetics won't allow it to happen.

I understand your idea of, one human race, and I agree full heartedly. But, you cannot deny that genetics, over long periods of time, being situated by itself in one group, will harbor much different attributes than another. Culture will also attribute to this.

And you cannot have cultural pride without racial pride. At least, I don't see how it would make anysense...

Again, I'm not racist. I think we're all equal at the end, but are better at different things seperatly during the middle.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71

However, there are ALOT, and I mean ALOT, of racist rappers. [edit on 10/21/05 by FredT]


Please tell me the name of a rapper that is racist?



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:18 AM
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Whoa they are soooo Hot! I mean that is so wrong!

Theyre 13 not 11



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Atomix
Whoa they are soooo Hot! I mean that is so wrong!

Theyre 13 not 11


Did you really have to post that?

so some maturity, please?



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:21 AM
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I agree with fallen one.

People who are in what we recognize as different races have different anatomical and physiological characteristics, in addition to the obvious ones of skin color, epicanthic folds, etc.

Blacks have a statistically higher level of quick-twitch to slow-twitch musculature, which probably has a correlation in the preponderance of blacks in sports which favor jumping and sprinting. Whites have a statistically lower bone mass-to-body mass ratio compared to blacks, which probably has a correlation in the preponderance of whites in competitive swimming.

Asian Oriental males have (statistically) the lowest levels of testosterone; black males the highest; and white males somewhere in the middle. Whether this has any correlation with the relative percentages of violent crimes and/or incarceration is certainly open to interpretation, but the differences are unarguably there.

And, of course, people who combine two or more races in their genetic makeup usually have a similarly revised phenotype, although I don't know of any research which has been undertaken to support physiological as opposed to anatomical characteristics.

Races are different in their anatomy and physiology; you can call this "racist" if you choose. You can also say that the Sun rising in the East is "racist", but it doesn't invalidate it.

I personally don't think it's a big deal one way or the other, except that any question dealing with race is treated exactly the same way that agnosticism was treated in the 17th Century or Darwinism was treated in the early 19th century -- we're not permitted to discuss it, and excoriated mightily if we do.

I also think that culture usually trumps genetics, at least from a 'racial' standpoint, but white pride, and black pride, as long as the proponents don't incite violence, is really not that important...

... certainly not important enough to toss our First Amendment rights out the window! We'll leave that to Canada, England, and Germany.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:24 AM
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nothing like some good old fashioned bubble gum hate music. I just saw an ad for the show that featured these two sweet little girls. (tivo so I don't know if it was on).

I can't wait till they get older and, in an effort to find a bigger audience, go mainstream. Then, no matter how much talent they have, their audience will be gone and they will resort to doing what many young women who crave attention in the entertainment industry do.

porn.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Atomix
Whoa they are soooo Hot! I mean that is so wrong!

Theyre 13 not 11


Did you really have to post that?

so some maturity, please?


What? They are. Their profession aside they are hot! As I have to say when people ask me about my avatar:
Im 14 so, not a peado...When are they playing in the Point? I know HIM are: next January!!!

[edit on 21/10/05 by Atomix]



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Atomix
Whoa they are soooo Hot! I mean that is so wrong!

Theyre 13 not 11


Did you really have to post that?

so some maturity, please?


Honestly infinite, I think Atomix post is very relevant. It's all about looks. You can't deny it.

Peace



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:30 AM
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prussianblue.net...

There read the lyrics and you can judge for yourselves, some parts do seem racist to me.



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:32 AM
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I already downloaded a song...'I bleed for you' Its so freakin' sad...*sniffle*..I actually cried...because ITS SO SH!*!!!



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by DaTruth

Originally posted by esdad71

However, there are ALOT, and I mean ALOT, of racist rappers. [edit on 10/21/05 by FredT]


Please tell me the name of a rapper that is racist?


I think some people mistake a message for racism sometimes. Listen to Ice Cube's "The Predator" album. One the surface it may sound a little racist against white people, but you have to really listen to the lyrics and put them in context. Cube wrote that album shortly after the Rodney King incident. Hell, I'm white and I was pretty pissed at crackers after that courtroom fiasco!



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