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Originally posted by soficrow
Valhall - Scaremongering? I think not.
This is a legitimate overview of the current political/economic situation - with a description of the mechanisms that impose the "order," and can be used to fight back.
What is it you are trying to protect here - and why?
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Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by soficrow
Valhall - Scaremongering? I think not.
This is a legitimate overview of the current political/economic situation - with a description of the mechanisms that impose the "order," and can be used to fight back.
What is it you are trying to protect here - and why?
.
No, I don't agree. What your original post states is that we can't own property because of this great corporate/feudal system in place. That's simply a lie. It's not only not true, it's a lie.
What do you advocate to fix what ails you? ...What exactly irks you the most? That your lot in life has resolved itself to not being the most you want it to be? or that some one else's life has resolved itself to more than you have acquired. ...You scare-monger. don't ask me to back down from that accusation. I won't. You scare-monger. ...You just spew without stated motivation. ...If you've convinced yourself that your life should be flowers and music and no hard work and that the government should make sure your fat and happy, that's your problem. Not the rest of us reality-based human beings. ...Spew your venom. Spew your venom at a trumped up system that keeps you from living as Princess of the Universe.
Originally posted by Astronomer68
Further to my last posting Soficrow. Be careful what you ask for, you may get it and you might not like it once it's in hand. All other things being equal, common people will vote for two general kinds of things. Bread (or their own pocketbook if you prefer) and circuses (i.e., distractions from the hum drum of their lives).
Originally posted by soficrow
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So, starting in the early 1900's, ordinary people began getting together, pooling their money, and building cooperatives. Soon, cooperatives everywhere helped people get things they couldn't afford on their own – land and homes, medical and property insurance, and business start-up loans. The cooperative movement gave people "economic democracy," in a way that political democracy couldn't do.
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Originally posted by Astronomer68
Soficrow, a cooperative is a corporation is a cooperative. They are the same thing.
I think your anger at coporations is misplaced, it's really the "elite" who run the corporations that you don't like, not the corporations themselves.
Corporations don't make the rules, politicians do (supposedly for our benefit).
...set strict term limits on political offices and enforce them. This would get rid of the career politicians who depend upon the money contributions from corporations, unions, and associations provide to stay in office. Two, pass laws completely overhauling political contributions. I.e., make it very, very difficult for any one, any group, corporation or what have you to buy influence with politicians.
Those two changes would be fought by the various power blocks and the career politicians, but they can be pulled off if people want to do so.