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as posted by TrueLies
I wish we lived in a nation where political parties didn't exist, and true patriotic statemen ran for congress, the senate, and president, and we would know about these people not because of how much money they had in order to be able to appear on television for us to see and listen to but rather because they stood true to the constitution and the original foundation of this country and that would be good enough.
Originally posted by TrueLies
I am amazed that such an intelligent being as yourself advocates for this brand of democracy, just because it's 'been this way forever'...
Voters in Oregon have twice endorsed doctor-assisted suicide, but the Bush administration has aggressively challenged the state law, the only one of its kind in the nation.
Originally posted by Odium
TrueLies, how much of it is due to these parties themself?
Maybe they should stop blaming the 'two' larger parties and claiming they control everything and get out there and change opinion?
They need a voice and a leader and once they have a true leader they will begin to more onwards and upwards.
Originally posted by Odium
TrueLies, you didn't understand my point.
The United Kingdom is also about money, however iti s possible to get elected without having a large amount of capital behind you it is just a lot harder. I actually work part-time for a political party known as 'Your Party' and work with the 'Independent Network' in the United Kingdom and we managed to get three people elected last time around with only minimul money. However it took us thousands of events over two years as well as constant door to door knocking, etc. It can be done however too many people do what you are doing and play the blame game. "We didn't get elected because they control everything."
As for Peroutka and Badnarik, I actually have seen speak live and lack the charisma that they need as a third political party and this is a major problem.
In various states, referenda through which the people rule include:
- Election of representatives (constitutionally used in all 50 states).
- Referrals by the legislature to the people of "proposed constitutional amendments" (constitutionally used in 49 states, excepting only Delaware — Initiative & Referendum Institute, 2004).
- Referrals by the legislature to the people of "proposed statute laws" (constitutionally used in all 50 states — Initiative & Referendum Institute, 2004).
- Constitutional amendment initiative is the most powerful citizen-initiated, direct democracy governance component. It is a constitutionally-defined petition process of "proposed constitutional law," which, if successful, results in its provisions being written directly into the state's constitution. Since constitutional law cannot be altered by state legislatures, this direct democracy component gives the people an automatic superiority, and their rightful sovereignty, over representative government (Magelby, 1984). It is utilized at the state level in eighteen states: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and South Dakota (Cronin, 1989). Among the eighteen states, there are three main types of the constitutional amendment initiative, with different degrees of involvement of the state legislature distinguishing between the types (Zimmerman, December 1999).
- Statute law initiative is a constitutionally-defined, citizen-initiated, petition process of "proposed statute law," which, if successful, results in law being written directly into the state's statutes. The statute initiative is used at the state level in twenty-one states: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Idaho, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington and Wyoming (Cronin, 1989). Note that, in Utah, there is no constitutional provision for citizen lawmaking. All of Utah's I&R law is in the state statutes (Zimmerman, December 1999). In most states, there is no special protection for citizen-made statutes; the legislature can begin to amend them immediately.
- Statute law referendum is a constitutionally-defined, citizen-initiated, petition process of the "proposed veto of all or part of a legislature-made law," which, if successful, repeals the standing law. It is used at the state level in twenty-four states: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Idaho, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington and Wyoming (Cronin, 1989).
- The recall is a constitutionally-defined, citizen-initiated, petition process, which, if successful, removes an elected official from office by "recalling" the official's election. In most state and sub-state jurisdictions having this governance component, voting for the ballot that determines the recall includes voting for one of a slate of candidates to be the next office holder, if the recall is successful. It is utilized at the state level in eighteen states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin (National Conference of State Legislatures, 2004, Recall Of State Officials).
Originally posted by TrueLies
With this in mind I hope we can all become more enlightened and be able to pin point who the real enemy is & why they want to keep us deaf, dumb, and blind. [edit on 26-9-2005 by TrueLies]