The Death Penalty..

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posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:02 PM
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In recent years the number of criminals put to death has been rising. The death penalty is the most severe penalty a state can give to a murderer. Currently, most U.S. states use the death penalty. Many people believe that execution is the only appropriate punishment for murder. Others believe that killing criminals sets a bad example for citizens and raises the level of violence in society. The Supreme Court has recently agreed to examine the ethics involved in the death penalty.

Should murders receive a punishment that fits their crime? It is right for the government to execute people? What do you think?




posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:12 PM
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Yeah, I think the death penalty is good, for its vermin ridding factor.

But the crimes for which the death penalty should be given need to be examined.

I think that it should be restricted to heinous, cold blooded, sane killers who are sociopaths with no remorse, no guilt, for thier crimes. I also think its fitting of serial killers.

But it should not be given for crimes of passion, rage,, or acidents, nor should insane people be executed.

They also need to look at the racial issue of the death penalty. More blacks are given death sentances for equalivialnt crimes that white guys just get life for.

Ultimately tho, I believe the virtue of the death penalty is not in preventing crime, but in ridding the world of a really evil slimy bastard. Like ted Bundy. he brutally murdered over 50 girls, and had absolutely no remorse for his crime.

Thus, to pass that point of no remorse, he is no longer human, thus, has no acess to human rights, and the death penalty is the only thing he should recieve.

Which he did.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:17 PM
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If you don't believe in God then fair enough for wanting the death penalty, although how stooping to their level makes you feel God knows? If you do believe in God then I don't get it? If you believe that a murderer shall be judged after death how do you believe we have the right to end his life? Surely the saner option is to lock him up for life until his judgement comes, as well as keeping the scum off the streets.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:21 PM
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John,

I do not believe in god. Thus, I do not believe one can play god.

A person who has basically lost thier humanity is no longer human, and thus, does not deserve humane treatment.

We euthanize dangerous, rabid animals who attack humans or are violent.

A sociopath is a person without any conscience. He has no remorse, no guilt for his actions. This is non human. A human has conscience, a human feels the effects of his actions, good and bad.

Just because said killer walks on two legs and posses opposable thumbs and speech cpabilities, does not make him a human. Thus, i do not believe in treatying him as a human.

Thus, he should recieve the fate that dangerous animals are often put to.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:25 PM
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I think you make a very good point about the death penalty influincing more violence in the community. I also think though that there are certain crimes that can only be punished with the mst severe punishment possible, Death. This is my view. All I ask is that you read it.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:29 PM
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Yeah, the death penalty shouldnt be freely meeted out to anyone. Certain guidelines must be followed in issuing it.

1. The person must be shown to be totally souless, lacking any concern or care for his victims, basically, having no guilt or shame for what he has done.
2. His crimes must be especially wicked, more so than a run of the mill killing.

A guy who shoots another guy in a fit of rage should not get the death penalty. But someone who plans out his victims murders, carries them out, with no remorse, and thinks nothing of it, is sadistic, ect.

Then the electric chair is all those animals deserve. or lethal injection.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:36 PM
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I don't agree with the death sentence for the same reason John Nada pointed out, I believe in God and I don't believe it is right to take someones life. LEt them spend the rest of their days away from society, yes. It's for our safety. But we have no right to decide wether someone lives or dies, no matter how big or important we think we are. Murderers make this mistake and end up spending their lives in prison, but we shouldn't immitate them by killing them. We should make them spend the rest of their days repenting and making them know they have done wrong. Besides, however you look at it, Death is an escape for most of them, do you want them to get away with it? Wouldn't you rather see them beaten and raped in prison?



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:42 PM
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People should receive a punishment that fits their crime,whether or not it is the death penalty it depends on the nature of the crime..As for us not deciding thats BS,they show no remorse,they are animals,they don't deseve to live..



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 05:48 PM
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Until the US prison system takes on the same demeanor of a turkish dungeon or a Spanish Inquisition style chamber of horrors, i continue to support the death penalty.

No, I dont want them locked up, wasting money and oxygen and food on them. Rather see them removed like dangerous beasts.

When we get a good prison system that becomes a nightmare instead of a vacation resort, then yes, it would be wonderful to see them suffer. But our prisons are too nice. They should be lightless, dank, moldy hellholes fileld with decaying corpses of former life sentances, rats, ect. But they are not. they are nice, clean, and well kept.

Thus, the need for the death sentance.

But then again, isnt it curel, like a sick or diseased animal, to keep them alive and caged? Doesnt that lower you as well?

I do not consider capitol punishment murder anymore than I consider cockroach tent bombing murder. Cold blooded animals simply do not deserve to be kept alive. If the administered the death penalty properly and swiftly, it would be alot cheaper than to keep them alive.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by The Real Deal
In recent years the number of criminals put to death has been rising. The death penalty is the most severe penalty a state can give to a murderer. Currently, most U.S. states use the death penalty. Many people believe that execution is the only appropriate punishment for murder. Others believe that killing criminals sets a bad example for citizens and raises the level of violence in society. The Supreme Court has recently agreed to examine the ethics involved in the death penalty.

Should murders receive a punishment that fits their crime? It is right for the government to execute people? What do you think?


I think that locking people like these up for the rest of their lives is a better (and more cruel) punishment.

Murder somebody at age 18 and sit in the same mother #ing room next 82 years not seeing anybody else but the guard twice a day when he brings the food to you.


Not being even allowed to see the sun light..


That is what i call a punisment. But most likely the prisoners would go mad and kill them selfs.. so..



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 07:00 PM
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Well Skadi, I don't agree with you completely, although I know how you feel. Yes it makes us animals to treat them like animals, but we bred these animals so we must treat them like animals. But that doesn't mean we should kill them when they kill.

The problem with prisons won't be solved by killing prisoners......the problem is the Ultra Zealous Human Rights fanatics who'll take a warden to court for farting next to a prisoner......thats what makes them so softy softy. We need proper dungeouns with racks and chains, for the barbarian murderers, but that ain't gonna happen until the next revolution. Bah



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 07:25 PM
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Yeah, until prisons become places of hell and suffering and punishment and torment, the death penalty is all there is.

When i think if the life prisoners lead, i am jealous.

Cable TV. Internet acess. Acess to education. Nice comfy air conditioned quarters. Nice little cell. fed three times a day. Gym privilages. prison commisary. Jesus, we reward criminals with rehab and easy life, # that i have to work my ass off and still cant afford to achieve.

Thus, the good old electric chair.

Fulcrum, prisoners should not be fed. And remeber, many of these guys would enjoy that kind of life. I wouldnt mind no human contact at all, in a nice little cell, getting fed, preferable to death.

The death penalty is what civilization have been built on. To call it barbaric is absurd. Every great civilization has had it. It was written into the very first code of law.

Thus, I hardly consider it barbaric and immoral.

But if it can be replaced by something equally brutal and final, then so be it. Turkish dongeon or electric chair. Your choice.



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 08:17 PM
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NO DEATH PENALTY, and I'll tell you why. I used to think different and it wasn't until I had a long talk with a friend of mine that I finally changed my mind.

The main and most obvious reason is that we exist in a society where the law states there is no killing and that goes for everyone. I for one certainly do not want my government to have the right to kill me or anyone else. The old policy of "eye for an eye" doesn't work to anyone's benefit, and killing a murdurer does NOT bring back the person they've killed. I think this also should go beyond just murder too and include most other serious violent crimes like rape, attempted murder, brutal assault, etc. There types of crimes whether death occurs or just comes close are just as serious and therefore makes that person completely unfit to live amongst the rest of society.

Life in prison would also make it possible for specialists to study these messed up individuals to try and see what is wrong with them so we can hopefully come up with ways of avoiding future events like the one's they've done. It would also allow for them to pay back society or the vicitms families if such a thing is possible.

Of course their time in prison would have to be spent in ways appropriate. No TV, Internet Access, stuff like that. They should be allowed to read certain material and write, things of that nature, but not for their entertainment. Such activities should be allowed only to correct the persons mental state(if possible) so they could serve some purpose while in prison.

I can go on and on but I'll stop here and see what everyone thinks so far, please feel free to ask questions or ask me to clearify if something I've said doens't make sense....



posted on Sep, 7 2003 @ 08:48 PM
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The death penalty should also be given anytime somebody commits a crime with a gun in their possession.





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