POLITICS: Yahoo 'helped jail China writer', page 1
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Topic started on 7-9-2005 @ 08:00 AM by FredT
Yahoo has been accused of supplying information that allowed Chinese officials to jail a journalist. Shi Tao was jailed for "divulging state secrets" after yahoo's Hon Kong division helped authorities identify his email account. The accusations have come from the group Reporters Without Borders. Tao was sentenced to 10 years in prison.





news.bbc.co.uk
Internet giant Yahoo has been accused of supplying information to China which led to the jailing of a journalist for "divulging state secrets".
Reporters Without Borders said Yahoo's Hong Kong arm helped China link Shi Tao's e-mail account and computer to a message containing the information.

The media watchdog accused Yahoo of becoming a "police informant" in order to further its business ambitions.

A Yahoo spokeswoman, Pauline Wong, said the company had no immediate comment.


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Google, Microsoft, and now Yahoo are all guilty of aiding and abetting the communist authorities in China. I wonder if they have such a paradise why do they fear the written word? Why suppress freedom of expression, why hide the Avian Flu outbreak, or SARS?


reply posted on 7-9-2005 @ 01:30 PM by wecomeinpeace
Originally posted by JIMC5499
A government, no matter how opressive cannot stay in power with out the consent of its people.

Well, the CCP's done a pretty good job of it for 56 years now. Actually a group of students and workers agreed with you until 1989. And dissent, the opposite of consent, can be suppressed and covered up when you control the military and all media. Besides, a half Japanese half American "
Goldstein" combined with the allure of BMW's and Nikes keeps the more affluent of the chattel focused on other pursuits for now as well.

...but I can't see how you can fault these companies for doing business in China.


Doing business is one thing. Doing business at the expense of certain inalienable human rights is another. I wonder if your sentiments would be the same were these companies spewing millions of litres of toxic waste into the Chinese waterways.

This is just another article of Socialist propaganda taking shots at big business.



What is the truth that this reporter is supposed to be spreading?


I would discuss that with you if I could, but being in China, I can't view the BBC website since it is blocked courtesy of your friendly neighborhood CCP. The bigwigs in Zhong Nan Hai can't imprison or execute the BBC nor other journalists outside of China, but they can stop them from telling the truth to the Chinese people as they see fit. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that it's the usual SOP charge of "passing information to foreigners" regarding CCP activities in regards to human rights or the lack thereof.

You have the right to remain silent; Journalistic freedom in China
China watchers will not be surprised at the news that China has topped the 2004 list of countries imprisoning reporters, maintaining the top ranking for the sixth consecutive year, despite claims that it has opened up the press.
...
World wide, the majority of journalists imprisoned have been accused insulting or defaming government officials, inciting public unrest, and spreading ‘false’ news, most of which are cover terms used against journalists who publish unfavorable stories about politicians or government dealings, or who speak out against state corruption and poverty.
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The issue of journalistic freedom was touched on during and after the handover of Hong Kong to the mainland, when it was feared that self censorship and controversial ‘anti subversion laws’ would put reporters in a difficult position when publishing unfavorable stories about mainland China, and dramatically brought into the world spotlight in 2004 with the detention of Zhao Yan, a New York times journalist and farmers rights activist, who was taken into custody on suspicion of “illegally providing state secrets to foreigners”. His detention is believed to be in connection to news article predicting the resignation of a senior Chinese official.



reply posted on 7-9-2005 @ 01:32 PM by Duzey
The information he got into trouble for posting was regarding the anniversary of Tianemman Square. The Chinese media was barred from marking the event, because of concerns over civil disturbances. There was a media crackdown right before the anniversary and authorities were asked to keep a good eye on dissidents.

And Yahoo Hong Kong Holding Co. is not required to supply IP address by law. It is merely customary to do so. In my mind, this makes Yahoo almost as bad as the CCP. Money before lives... *sigh*


Forbes.com

Shi posted on the Internet a government order barring Chinese media from marking the 15th anniversary last year of the brutal 1989 crackdown on democracy activists at Beijing's Tiananmen Square.

Yahoo Hong Kong provided Chinese investigators with detailed information that apparently enabled them to link Shi's personal e-mail account and the specific message he sent to the IP address of his computer, the group said.




reply posted on 7-9-2005 @ 05:03 PM by wecomeinpeace
Originally posted by JIMC5499
If you don't like the fact that Yahoo voluntarily complies with the requests of governments of countries in which it does business there is a real easy way to prevent them from doing it. All you have to do is to write a letter to Yahoo and all of the compaines that advertise with them stating that you refuse to do business with them as long as they are complying with the requests of the Chinese government...

Uhh, yeah, I'm sure that will work...


One other question. If the information that Yahoo provided the Chinese Government helped to apprehend a terrorist or murderer, would you still feel the same? Last one. Did Yahoo know why the Chinese wanted the information before they gave it to them?

Do you honestly think that Yahoo is naive enough to not know what the Chinese government's human rights and suppression of freedom of speech record is, and why they would be requesting the IPs of Chinese citizens? Do you know why Murdoch dropped the South China Morning Post like a hot potato when the CCP took Hong Kong back? Do you honestly think that Microsoft, when they agreed to install tech on their Chinese websites to filter and monitor "subversive ideals", thought that it was to catch "murderers"? These companies know what kind of government they are dealing with, probably better than you and I afte their market and legal research, but they care not because profit is profit. Don't think I don't understand it and the reasoning behind it, I just don't personally endorse it.

As for my putting the locals in jail, if I am asked for information by the authorities, no matter where I am at, I am going to cooperate fully.

My apologies, my comment was a little out of line. But I guess you and I can agree to differ here. If I was a foreigner doing business in China and one of the prerequisites was that I had to agree to assist in the suppression of free speech and the persecution and imprisonment of journalists who reveal the truth, however indirectly, I would turn around and go back home. But that's just me...

[edit on 2005-9-7 by wecomeinpeace]
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