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Originally posted by xmotex
To bad they would rather challange US supremecy then join it.
Only a moron wants to join someone elses "supremacy."
If the US insists on being "number one", we can count on the rest of the planet overtly or covertly planning to knock us off our throne. Nobody wants to be ruled by foreigners.
Originally posted by futuretense
Iran is determined to have ........nuke energy sitting on that oil field of their's like Jay Leno needs a bicycle to ride to work cause he's out of cars
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
It kind of makes these claims somewhat lame and weak, to say the least, wouldn't you say?
Obviously it's just best to ignore that part of the story and frighter as many people as possible with wild tales of what they are bound to do if they get nuclear weapons, right?
Originally posted by American Mad Man
But you ignore the reason that these C/B weapons have not been used. That is nuclear inferiority. They know that if they used them against Isreal, Isreal would nuke them. Same goes for Europe (in the case of non nuclear countries in Europe, their allies would respond for them).
Originally posted by American Mad ManAs far as your argument that if Iran needed nuclear power in the 70s, then they need it now - you have a point. The problem as I see it is that getting civilian nuclear energy helps their nuclear weapons program. That, I believe, is the crux of the problem as far as Europe, Isreal, and the US is concerned. I can not support Iran gaining ground in nuclear weapons.
Originally posted by Sep
Can you clear one point. Sorry my English isnt very good, but are you saying that Iran hasnt used chemical and biological weapons until now, because they fear being nuked? In that case, if this fear exists, then they are not some "islamic nutjobs" as you claim. They want to survive and using nuclear bombs against Israel isnt the way to achieve this goal.
So what you are proposing is double standards in international law, simply because you dont feel secure?
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Iran will not use chemical or biological weapons against it's main enemy (Isreal) because Isreal has nuclear weapons to respond with. Since Iran does not currently have nuclear weapons of their own, they can not act on (and I would like to emphasize this point) their OWN PUBLICALLY DECLARED POLICY of the total destruction of Isreal.
Originally posted by American Mad ManIt is my, and the rest of the western worlds concern, that Iran wishes to obtain nuclear weapons not as a deterent (as the US, China, Russia, Isreal, India, Pakistan, the UK, and France use them), but as a weapon with which to strike Isreal with.
Originally posted by American Mad ManFrankly, they have made their own bed on this subject. They have openly declared a wish to destroy another country. If Germany were to declare that they wished the total destruction of Italy, do you think the world community would want to see Germany obtain nuclear weapons?
Originally posted by American Mad ManWhat you call a double standard, I call logic. You don't let psychopathic people own guns just because everyone else is allowed to. They are not like other people who wish to own guns to protect themselves and/or hunt. They are people who would use the weapons to harm others.
Originally posted by American Mad ManLikewise, you don't let a country which, again, has PUBLICALLY STATED that they wish to destroy another country get nuclear weapons if you can help it.
Originally posted by American Mad ManIf Iran was just a nice country which wished to increase their options for domestic energy, it wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that's NOT what they want. They want nuclear plants to advance their nuclear weapons program.
Originally posted by American Mad ManBesides, there is no international law saying that every country is entitled to nuclear power. None. So there is no double standard in international law.
Originally posted by American Mad ManAnd frankly, it's not me that Iran most threatens...It's Isreal and Europe. Hence why EUROPE and not the US is taking things into their hands.
Originally posted by American Mad ManBut yes, I will tell you, the thought of Iran gaining nuclear weapons does make me uncomfortable. They are a nation run by Islamic fundamentalists, a nation which has publically said that they wish the destruction of another country, and a country which has consistantly backed anti-western terrorists.
Originally posted by American Mad ManI'll tell you right now, I will support what ever action is needed to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons, and I would choose to error on the safe side.
Originally posted by American Mad ManEDIT: By the way, your English is excellent.
I wish I could learn a second language as well as you have.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Iran was offered nuclear fuel by the EU for their “civilian” nuclear project, yet they refused and want to do it on their own, ignoring everyone. Now, that surly has to raise some concerns. If it doesn't, your either to naive to see it, or don't want to see it.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Iran was offered nuclear fuel by the EU for their “civilian” nuclear project, yet they refused and want to do it on their own, ignoring everyone. Now, that surly has to raise some concerns. If it doesn't, your either to naive to see it, or don't want to see it.