Originally posted by gottr
This is where we differ, I will not characterize being born American. I am born human and have all rights that any free creature has. In that is the
right to drive a car, or piss on your lawn.
No, you do not have those rights. You've chosen to live in a society where your rights are enurmerated and backedup by the force of law. You do not
have right to destroy private property nor do you have a right to operate a vehicle on public property.
People always want to put everything into a nice little box and label it.
Just try to pass the driving exam and get on with your life.
You technically dont need it to drive.
You require a license and insurance to legally operate a motor vehicle on public property. Sure, you don't need a license to illegally operate
Plus we pay tax dollars to maintaine those roads.
Yes, precisely. We
pay taxes to maintain the public roads, and we
decide what the requirements are to use said roads. We
decided that you need a valid and legal driver's license and certain minimum's of insurance.
Yet she has a hard time getting around without a vehicle.
The reason she wont drive is because it is the LAW to have insurance, it is funny, that this LAW is opressing her
Bwa hahahahahaha! Oppressed, thats a good one.
yet she still chooses to obey it. She could go drive is she wanted too.
Obviously she's not physically prevented from driving an unregistered uninsured vehicle with no license. She's also not physically prevented from
running down pedestrians with her car either. So what? If she gets caught doing either she's going to get punished.
There is no reason why anyone should get in the way of me living my life.
There's lots of reason's. You're obviously a bit of a hinderance in other people's lives, and apparently we all have to work, as a society, to
keep people like you from going around damaging us and our society.
I am tired of living in a society that is governed by laws
And you are doing what about it precisely? It seems more like you are tired of obeying the laws, rather than tired of benefiting from those laws.
Compare a society with a complex and intricate system of laws and rights, to a society where there are practically no laws and no recognition of
the right to steal them because you already have that right
You do not have a right to take someone else's property.
I have the right to drive a vehicle
You do not have a right to operate a vehicle on public roads without insurance and a license.
the right to do whatever I want whenever I want = freedom. Simple
Incorrect. You have a small set of rights, they are enumerated and protected in the Constitution. Rights do not equal completely wanton and
I bet there are places out there that are better or just as good. I will send you a postcard.
So you admit that it is infact you who has never been to these other countries and that it is you who are merely assuming that there are these places.
Why don't you go out into the world and see what a wretched, vile, nasty little place it is where there are no laws.
Saying it is the law is basically saying the same thing as "because I told you so".
This is simply not true. The law hasn't been dictated to us, its been crafted by groups of the people who are bound by the law, and those groups of
people continously agree to be bound by the law by participating in The System.
Being forced to pay money for fines and insurance is just this lifetimes way of taxation and opression.
Law is not oppression. Oppression is what happens when those who rule do not respect actual rights, actual
rights, not these made up ones that
you are having a problem with only because you apparently can't afford to pay insurance or want to steal stuff from other people. Law is not
oppression, Law is
freedom. Without law, you can not
realize your full potential in a society. In the absence of law, you will be
by the powerful, be it a corporation on the other side of the planet, a regional warlord, or a stronger and more violent
a combination of laws in accord with actual
you have the most freedom. So long as you merely
demonstrate a minimal driving ability and basic understanding of the markings and signs on the road, and can hire a company to pay for any of the
massive damage that you might wreak should you get into an accident, then you can drive anywhere
. License tests and insurance payments are
nothing compared to what you'd have to pay in a lawless society to travel across long distances. You'd have to bride thugs, get beat up by bandits,
fight to get fuel, kill to get food, steal to get medecine, and all sorts of things, to go across a country without law and society. Neverminding
that you'd not have a car in such a society anyway, or paved roads to drive them on, maps to determine which way to go, or anything else. If you
want 'absolute freedom', there are places all over the world that have no legitimate government, and even places that have absolutely not government
at all, legit or otherwise. Feel free to check them out. Just remember to bring plenty of ammunition, food stock, and medical supplies.