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posted on Sep, 19 2002 @ 01:48 PM
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Physicists have mass produced antimatter, a crucial first step towards precision studies of its properties that may help solve one of the greatest mysteries of the Universe.

Antihydrogen has been made before, but only a few atoms at a time.

Now, the Cern particle accelerator in Geneva, Switzerland, has produced more than 50,000.


Full Story:news.bbc.co.uk...




posted on Sep, 19 2002 @ 03:57 PM
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I saw this artical these people need to learn a thing or two about messing with anti matter. Being that when ever a normal atom is split it creates a omnidirectional explosion similer to a atomic blast. In theroy then if anti matter explodes it would possibly create a black hole.

Falcon





posted on Sep, 19 2002 @ 04:23 PM
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cool,
50k Anti-atoms that touches 50k atoms, what does it do? i mean, in explosive power?



posted on Sep, 19 2002 @ 11:04 PM
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Not all that much I'd imagine, 50k atoms of H is still an extremely tiny amount.

Considering 1mol of H is only 1gram or so.

and falcon perhaps they could ring you up before proceeding with the experiment, I dont know why they didnt think of that first...



posted on Sep, 20 2002 @ 08:21 AM
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I am not a scientist.
But why do scientist believe there only two types of matter.Matter and Anti-matter.As we can only observe matter why is everything else Anti-matter.There could be 26 types of matter what we call Matter could be Matter A and we class Matter B to Z as anti-matter and no type of matter can exist in any universe made up of any one type of matter.HelpHelp



posted on Sep, 20 2002 @ 10:47 AM
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Kano, Falcons right! I saw a Star Trek movie once, where the whole ship exploded because of an uncontrolled anti matter chain reaction!



posted on Oct, 13 2002 @ 05:35 PM
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There's matter and anti-matter because of charge...

Unless you find charges other than positive or negative, then there's two possibilities.


TN1

posted on Dec, 19 2002 @ 08:11 AM
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Hello there,
indeed charge plays an important role but don't forget that there exists the antineutron ,recall that neutron has no charge but is made up by three quarks 2 down and 1 up .For example if there is a reaction between an electron and an anti-electron or positron then they will annihilate and produce radiation in the form of e+e=g+g ,where g is the gamma radiation and this is a possible reaction ,and another example a neutron decays to produce a proton ,an electron and an anti-neutrino of the electron....



posted on Dec, 19 2002 @ 08:26 AM
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I think that the thing with a anti-matter and matter together will necessarily form a black hole. More likely you'll have a lot of gamma rays. Also not nice, but better then a black hole.



posted on Dec, 20 2002 @ 07:47 AM
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Actually, they are already pretty sure that they've been creating black holes since the first time they ever smashed two atoms together. They realize this because they figure that this is what SHOULD happen when any amount of mass colides together at such extreme conditions.

And they also realize that such a black hole would last only I think it was 15 billionths of a second, and have barely enough effect on its suroundings to be noticeable. I have not seen a follow up though about this.

Anyways...there is only matter//anti-mater, and no a black hole won't form. I bet if they truly knew what a black hole was in 44 they'd have been saying to stop the nuclear bomb because it might cause one. All a black hole is is a Singularity where mass exists in an infinately small point in space. The more mass at that "point" (the very word is an oxymoron since its infinately small and therefore can not be reached) the more gravitational effect the "black hole" has on its surroundings.

A black hole that can barely grab a comet just 900 miles away, is already the mass of a sun or more. Our sun can grab and pull in a comet from light years away, it does this all the time. Because the radiation it emits decays the orbits of the comet.

This is truly amazing though that they've mass produced Antihydrogen. But its not as interesting as if they've finally been able to make more elements out of it.


Would the elements have the same properties? And just be oppositely charged? Or will they have different properties that we can make use of?

Sincerely,
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posted on Dec, 24 2002 @ 08:36 PM
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Antimatter is positively charged matter. It seems like an oxymoron. Matter has electrons and is negatively charged, while Antimatter has positrons and is positively charged. The problem is, "where has all the antimatter gone?" We know that matter explodes/implodes when it encounters antimatter. They destroy each other and attract each other as opposites. Somewhere along the line, a whole lot of matter got loose and created the things we see today. Who knows if black holes, dark matter, or a new law in physics will explain why this is.

I hope that helps.



posted on Dec, 25 2002 @ 01:15 AM
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They are going to have to re-write the textbooks soon anywho.

Our Chem book has electrons being the smallest particle out there


TN1

posted on Dec, 28 2002 @ 09:01 AM
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Subject to some false assumptions ,antimatter is not only positively charged particles can be negatively charged particles as well !!!For example there are lot of particles like leptons :electrons ,muons ,taous ,...hardons :protons which is a good example !the aniparticle of the proton is the antiproton exactly the sane with the proton but negatively charged ,electrons have positrons as antiparticles.Even neutrinos have antiparticles that called antineutrinos :n-p+e+antineutrino of the electron ,otherwise a neutron decays to a proton an electron and an antineutrino of the electron!!Neutrinos have no charge and they are almost massless,even neutron has a antiparticle called antineutron......Quarks have also antiparticles called antiquarks for example the proton consists of 3 quarks :2 up and 1 down with charges +2/3 and +1/3 respectively.....



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 04:59 AM
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The explosive power of 50000 atoms + 50000a nti-atoms of hydrogen, thats not so difficult.
1) The mass of a hydrogenatom is 1.6727E-27 kg
2) There are 100000 atoms involved, so total matter is 100.000 x 1.6727E-27= 1.6727E-22 kg
3) Matter relates to energy in E=MC2 so:
E= 1.6727E-22 x (3E8)2 = 1.505E-5 J of energy.

Compare that to the 9E7 J of energy created by the explosion of 1kg of TNT, it's nothing



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 12:10 PM
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They aren't trying to create an antimatter engine, they are trying to test antimatter to see why it has particular properties that make it "anti"matter. By running the tests, they may find better ways of producing it and more reasons as to why matter and antimatter destroy one another. I thougtht this was all in the article?



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 07:16 PM
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Falcon, create a black hole? Oh no...uh oh...lol.

Most physicists would agree we've already been creating black holes every time we smash two particles together, however they are such short lived versions we've never noticed them until we started to think about it...

As for anti-matter, they have yet to produce Anti-Hydrogen right? Or I think they just begun producing it.

But it's imperitive we produce Anti-xxxxx elements, as that they can be used to better unlock the workings of our world.

After all, anti-matter for some reason was not chosen as the primary form of matter (omitting darkmatter), in this universe.

Also, think of yourself to anti-matter, to us it's like "uber deadly" but wouldn't an anti-matter being be equally afraid of us?

In some alter-reality I bet we're the anti-matter



posted on Jul, 11 2003 @ 09:23 PM
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"Most physicists would agree we've already been creating black holes every time we smash two particles together, however they are such short lived versions we've never noticed them until we started to think about it..."

No. I wouldn't agree. Smashing particles together is an attempt to either make heavier particles or split them up into a particular reaction. The idea of the "otons" are microscopic black holes, if I remember correctly. This is caused by a specific reaction that university scientists have attempted, I believe. I do not know if the study was successful. If anyone can find the article on creating a mini-Big Bang or an oton, I'd be interested in rereading it. I think MSNBC published it a ways back.


"As for anti-matter, they have yet to produce Anti-Hydrogen right? Or I think they just begun producing it."

Yes, CERN produces it. 50,000 particles of low energy anti-hydrogen, to be more exact.

"But it's imperitive we produce Anti-xxxxx elements, as that they can be used to better unlock the workings of our world."

Not so much anti elements, but anti quarks. Then we can build atoms as we please, which helps us to build materials at will. It will be a while before we control this.

"After all, anti-matter for some reason was not chosen as the primary form of matter (omitting darkmatter), in this universe."

As far as we understand, that's correct. For some reason, the positron (anti-electron with positive charge) is believed to have a flaw where it was destroyed in the early universe, or maybe its the antiproton... I forget. This is all theory and I don't know if we really have any proof to base this on. We may have a better answer in another 5-10 years.

"Also, think of yourself to anti-matter, to us it's like "uber deadly" but wouldn't an anti-matter being be equally afraid of us?"

No. There is no such thing as an "anti-self" that I know of. Most anti-elements are made of a variety of other particles, so complete annihilation is not a necessary conclusion with elements, but it is (as far as we know) a certainty at the quark level. The reason why hydrogen and antihydrogen are used to annihilate one another is because they are so simple and can achieve annihilation. I'll post again if I find that other particles can annihilate easier.... I have a place to look that up.

"In some alter-reality I bet we're the anti-matt"

Nah. Antimatter is becoming much less mysterious with our latest research. Antimatter makes up regular matter. This may comes as a shock, but it's true.

To learn more:
particleadventure.org...



posted on Jul, 11 2003 @ 09:27 PM
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If you are only interested in the annihilation, go here:
particleadventure.org...

The next hand-full of pages (use the arrows on the top right) deals with what really happens between matter and antimatter.

The truth is that the collisions often create new particles, instead of just destroying them.

Isn't it great to learn new stuff



posted on Jul, 13 2003 @ 12:22 PM
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Antimatter isn't positively charged matter. Possitively charged matter would just be an ion. Antimatter is matter's perfect opposite. Where as in a regular attom, the proton is positive, and the electron is negative, the antiproton (the proton for antimatter) is negatively charged and the antielectron is positively charged.

When one atom of antimatter comes in contact with one atom of matter they anhialate eachother leaving only energy behind. The difference between this and a nuclear explosion is that in a nuclear explosion (simply splitting an atom appart) matter is left over.... just all broken up. Another difference is that in a nuclear explosion, you're only releasing the binding force holding the atom together. In an antimatter explosion, every last bit of matter is 'converted' INTO ENERGY. So you get a lot higher energy yield from an antimatter explosion than a nuclear one (atom for atom that is).

One gram of antimatter contains approximately
90,000,000,000,000 joules of energy (approximately the same as 0.0215 megatons of TNT). One TON of TNT contains only (approximately)
4,260,000,000 joules of energy.

www.matter-antimatter.com...

^^^(link) states that

one gram of antimatter will create an explosion releasing the same energy as about 0.0215 megatons of TNT.

1Kg of A-matter = 21.5 megatons of TNT (we're getting scary here)

1 (metric) ton of A-matter = 21,500 megatons of TNT (HOLY FREAKIN' CRAP).

But what am I saying... you shouldn't be worried that people are mass producing antimatter... on Earth.... a planet COMPLETELY made of what antimatter needs to explode... matter. I hope to God they don't have a power failure and the magnetic fields they're holding this stuff in don't fail. 50,000 anti-atoms isn't much... but they didn't say how fast/easy they made it. From what we know, they could have a ton of it tomorrow (probably not, but still) and then these scientists would have a 'weapon' capable of releasing a yield of 21,500 megatons (about 1,075,000 Hiroshima bombs... yeah that's ONE MILLION, SEVENTY-FIVE THOUSAND HIROSHIMA BOMBS). It'd rip the side of the earth off (no problem).

I'm all for these people doing this because antimatter will help us unfold new propulsion systems, but dear God help them keep it safe while it's at our back door.



posted on Jul, 13 2003 @ 09:04 PM
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Yes, chemistry actually explains the whole process whereby protons are positive, antiprotons are negative, neutrons and antineutrons are neutral (but still opposites), and electrons are opposites of positrons. The thing is, excess energy can exist in either of the atoms (or both). In this is the case the energy level shown by a higher level electron or positron can reveal how high the energy level is. In the various cases with different energy levels, the reactions will be different. Although complete anniliation can occur, usually a number of other reactions can happen, whereby the excess energy transforms into other particles. In otherwords, complete annihilation is not a certainty, but a very large portion is annihilated (much larger than a standard nuclear reaction (by thousands of times if I remember correctly)).

The 21 gigatons of TNT is probably enough to blast off a portion of the Earth's surface into outer space, if not crack the Earth altogether. The atmosphere would be boiled off, all life above the surface and in the water would be incinerated. Our axis would change, we'd have a new orbit, and maybe crash into another planet or the sun.

.... Let's not do that.






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