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Originally posted by nikelbee
Shots,
Why don't you spend some time reading the links instead of trolling. All you have been demanding over the last few posts is to 'prove this and prove that' when you have not even read the links I've sent you. Here is some advice - READ some of them.
Originally posted by Rikimaru
What exactly do they want to barter for oil? I dont see that working, if they want to sell us gasoline cheaper hey im all for it. Id like to know how they classify poor of america, by their standards the poorest man in america is still better off than the average venezeulean. So is this a clever way of them telling us they will sell us nothing?
Originally posted by Rikimaru
What exactly do they want to barter for oil? I dont see that working, if they want to sell us gasoline cheaper hey im all for it. Id like to know how they classify poor of america, by their standards the poorest man in america is still better off than the average venezeulean. So is this a clever way of them telling us they will sell us nothing?
Originally posted by Roper
The guy is a commie!
Eschewing Marxism-Leninism, Lanz says, Chavez has developed an economic model called "endogenous development" whereby state oil money will finance the creation of thousands of small-scale cooperatives in agricultural and other areas to provide jobs and foster community development.
Roper
Originally posted by Gazrok
Any decent past administration would have had this guy out of power ages ago, through a nice covertly financed and orchestrated coup... Man, I wish we had a real leader, hehe.....
Are you kidding? Decent? Decent for what, America or the Rich CEOs that own it? JFK I can see trying that, Bush Sr I could maybe, the rest? Nope. Well maybe Grant but that's just so he could draw attention away from his own horrible administration, like Bush Jr uses Iraq for.
Originally posted by smallpeeps
While our leaders are oil profiteers, what hope is there to wean ourselves off tha' juice?
[edit on 27-8-2005 by smallpeeps]
Originally posted by smallpeeps
Ha ha, isn't it funny how most people in this thread have fully accepted two premises without question? Namely:
1: Communism/Socialism or Capitalism are our only two political options.
2: We need a leader.
Anyway, about this Chavez idea, I will admit I am starting to like this guy, but anyone who thinks he is a great leader is accepting the second premise above. NOTE: We don't need human men at the top of some power pyramid to solve our problems. Chavez and Bush are cut from the same cloth. They are men who seek power over others. Even if Chavez turns out to be a good man who is interested in helping others, it's foolish to place any man over your own life and property.
As for the following of commies/capitalist it is the same old argument of those that believe in ideals and those that believe in reality. Except that our reality is a lot drearier and our ideals are non-existant lately.
FEMA Directing Donations To Rev. Pat Robertson (Sploid)
Millions of Americans and people around the world have rushed to donate money to the victims of Hurricane Katrina, which is shaping up to be one of the worst U.S. disasters in history, if not the worst.
FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is the lead federal agency in the rescue & recovery operation at work in New Orleans and the Mississippi gulf coast.
FEMA has released to the media and on its Web site a list of suggested charities to help the storm’s hundreds of thousands of victims. The Red Cross is first on the list.
The Rev. Pat Robertson’s “Operation Blessing” is next on the list.
“It’s an outrage,” said privacy watchdog Bill Scannell, who alerted Sploid to the FEMA / Robertson scam.