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Originally posted by gooseuk
I have noticed this new trend of new members, being openly offensive to other nations, which happen not to fly the Stars and Stripes. Its frankly sickening and should be, I hope, will be dealt with quickly and finally.
- Phil
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
I simpy found it comical you were implying Iran could reverse engineer anything meaningful like the 117 or 22A
I couldn't care less if you are offended by my posts. Maybe you expected a bunch of sycophants here that will agree with everything the mighty goose has decreed is acceptable ?
You do understand that the sole purpose of these machines is to turn people into charred fragments, right ? I hope that doesn't offend your refined sensibilities
Originally posted by COOL HAND
Hmm, looks like a chop shop to me.
How many of those planes are being returned in flight worthy condition?
I have noticed this new trend of new members, being openly offensive to other nations, which happen not to fly the Stars and Stripes. Its frankly sickening and should be, I hope, will be dealt with quickly and finally.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
As opposed to the old members who specialize at vagueness in making their attacks on other countries? Right, goose?
[edit on 23-8-2005 by WestPoint23]
Iran’s F-14 jet fighters significantly modified
TEHRAN, Sept. 28 (MNA) -- Brigadier General Ali Mohammad Naderi, the director of Iran’s Aviation Industries Organization (AIO), announced here Tuesday that fundamental changes have been made to Iran’s F-14 jet fighters.
Speaking to reporters at AIO headquarters, Naderi said, “By combining Eastern and Western military technology, we have gained capabilities that are even surprising to our enemies.”
“Relying on its indigenous specialists, Iran today has no problems in modernizing its military equipment,” the general added.
Naderi stated that the AIO has shared knowledge with friendly countries that possess aviation industry technology.
The U.S. sanctions on Iran have not influenced the country’s military industries, he pointed out, adding that Iran has never halted its efforts to manufacture military aircraft since the sanctions were imposed.
According to Naderi, over 4,000 highly skilled specialists are currently working in Iran’s aviation industry.
Paying more attention to aviation industries could stem the brain drain, the general noted, adding that efforts should be made to attract talented university students to this industry.
The AIO is affiliated to the Ministry of Defense.
HL/MS/HG
End
MNA
www.mehrnews.com...
Question:
A- is true that iranians made Phoenix? this is really a formidable news! Some particulars?
Tom Answered:
Yes, they have a "reverse engineered" version in low-rate production. Western intel sources compare it with the AIM-54C in capability.
www.acig.org...
AIM-54 ECCM/Sealed: improved to include electronic counter-countermeasure capabilities, does not require coolant conditioning during captive flight. used from 1988 onwards.
In recent years, Iran is said to have developed its own version of the Phoenix.
en.wikipedia.org...
Can Iran produce AWG9 radar?
Iran can produce most of the parts that can be used on the AWG-9.
www.acig.org...
The planes have got much of their structure completely renewed (i.e. replaced where needed), rebuilt, and strengthened. Most of the avionics was replaced by digital and more modern parts. They have got a plethora of new weapons integrated, and have never operated from aircraft carriers, so there was - even despite the combat - never so much stress put on them in total.
www.acig.org...
Originally posted by Harlequin
IIRC a chinese embassy was bombed *in error* , in an attempt to destroy the parts they had *allegedly*.
I have never been vague when it comes to comments on other countries, I haven't to my knowledge been openly offensive to another nation, although, I refuse to remain silent when on the most part, Americans*, like to believe that every one that believes in the islamic faith are carrying a AK and a frag, waiting for a bus load of "non-believers". Its Ignorance, to believe in such a sterotypical view in this age after the attacks in america and the uk, its a sign of a lack of education.
I defend the skills of the Iranian Engineers out of respect of their abilities, I would hope that you could do the same, as from your history, I doubt you have the skills or abilities to do the same as them.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Originally posted by Harlequin
IIRC a chinese embassy was bombed *in error* , in an attempt to destroy the parts they had *allegedly*.
cool.. never heard this reason before..But how did they get the stuff from the crash site??The russians mostly defintely would not have allowed the chinese to do so..
Originally posted by gooseuk
Hmm,
Any one that believes that because they are an Eastern Nation, they don't know any thing about their aircraft, they are either preduced or have a lack of firm intelligence.
I have noticed this new trend of new members, being openly offensive to other nations, which happen not to fly the Stars and Stripes. Its frankly sickening and should be, I hope, will be dealt with quickly and finally.
- Phil
Originally posted by Gazrok
(responding to initial post)
Sure, this certainly doesn't seem like a big press stunt does it???
This is obviously a blatant staged press propaganda event...
Wow, Vietnam-era aircraft...surely the infidels of the evil satan are quaking in their boots...???
Seriously though, even the highly touted F-14s (sold pretty stripped as I recall, and according to reports, about 4 are actually operational!) don't add up to much...
I will give the Iranians credit for one thing here though, other reports say that they have been pretty successful in re-engineering replacement parts for the Tomcats, and may have more flight-worthy soon (as they aren't getting them from the US). I believe they're also using a French missile on them (can't remember the type offhand) instead of the originals. Still, these planes won't be able to go toe-to-toe with their western counterparts, nor will their pilots.