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[4:171] O people of the Scripture (Jews and
Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your
religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth.
The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary),
was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His
Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on
Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him;
so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not:
"Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you.
For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be
to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To
Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all
that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient
as a Disposer of affairs.
Yea, tho I walk (nakedly amongst my fellow men) through the valley of the Shadow of Death (caused by bigotry and racism), I will fear no evil (because gay is great.)
Yea, tho I walk (with my racial brethren) through the valley of the Shadow of (the) Death (we bring to those who have a different skin color), I will fear no evil (bestown by those who are not like me).
Yea, tho I walk (to my monopolized desktop idol) through the valley of (endless hardware that is no longer supported, blocking the sun like) the Shadow of Death (in the shape of a large Apple), I will fear no evil (for I have the power of the almighty Gates on my side)
"4.171": O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
Originally posted by Machine
The parenthesis found in these Quran scriptures accurately capture the meaning of the words used.
You don’t have to take my word for it, just take the explanatory parenthesis out and read them for yourself!
Better yet, ask a believing Muslim what he thinks they mean.
Anyone who reads your parenthetical quotes concerning the Bible can see them for what they are. A horribly inaccurate, made up description of the plain words set before you and not at all pertaining to the text itself.
The Quran says what it says, like it or not it’s straight forward and direct.
Not in my opinion. In fact, just from the example I used, the fact that it states "(Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah" it looses any sense of objectivity in my book. The text that I bolded does little more than show the interpreter's obvious bias against Islam, by making it sound as though being a Messenger of Allah is a trivial thing.
The fact is that fundamentalist Christians are "harmless as doves" [Math 10:16]. Many millions live in this country and they are active in charity work and the ministry. Notice that the Words of our God restrain our violent tendencies and "guide our feet into the way of peace" [Luke 1:79]. To the contrary, fundamentalist Islamics are often extremely violent, and one need look no further than the Quran for the explanation.
Originally posted by MCory1
Okay, I'm sure there's some believing Muslims on this site. Would any of you care to post your personal interpretations of this quote to show how it matches up to what that site claims?
For almost 200 years fundamentalist Christians sanctioned wars against non-Christians, specifically muslims, during the Crusades (more info here). In the 1692, fundamentalist Christians executed 20 people as witches, while four others died in prison (more info here). , while between 1450 and 1750, England executed between 40,000 to 60,000 people as witches. And from 1184 through 1834 the Roman Church--how much more fundamental can you get?--declared open season on heretics through various inquisitions. The most famous of these is the Spanish Inquisition of course, which had a resultant death toll of anywhere between 1,200-135,00 depending on who's doing the statistics.
Originally posted by Machine
It's a simple truth. The writings in the Quran are very clear and all those who hold true to those writings should, if they choose to follow Allah's will, obey them. Now some may say that there are many non-violent Muslims who believe in the Quran and this is true, to a point. You see, many Muslims are not familiar with the Quran as are most Christians not familiar with their Bible. They are liberal in their belief towards the Quran and do not take it to seriously.
The difference is this, When a Christian becomes a fundamentalist and is serious about his Bible he is commanded to live a life of charity and peace towards those who do not believe as he or she does.
The same cannot be said concerning fundamentalists followers of the Quran. Their teachings are straight forward and very clear. Convert the Christian, Jew or Heathen. If they will not be converted then they must submit. If they will not submit they must be killed.
The true followers of the Quran are not live and let live worshippers.
You don't believe me?
Then go to this link and see for yourself!