There've been a lot of posts since my last one so I'll just make a few comments on what I've read.
Survival Knives: I shy away from these, they may seem really neat but most of them aren't as strong as you would like. The knife with the screw
open hollow handle makes it so the blade can't continue on through the handle. As a weldor I promise you it won't take much to snap the blade off.
There is a model I've seen where the handle snaps open from the sides and everything is incased in a frame that runs through the blade.
Silencers: Not that you'd need one, but if you could get one, remember it lowers the effective range of your fire arm. If silence is what you desire
perhaps you should conisder the benefits of a bow, crossbow or hunting sling shot. I've hit someone running full speed from 50 feet away with a
sling shot, it'll make them think twice.
Hemp Seed: Trust me, if all you were eating is hemp seeds and you were living in the wilderness YOU'D DIE. Buddha may have eaten them, but only
during his time as an aestetic (sp?) which he found to be an erroneous path. Buddha decided to follow the Enlightened Middle Path of moderation. You
can not hike, run, cut and carry wood, clean animal meat or anything else if all you're eating is seeds.
Vehicles: I'd say only if you really need it. If martial law is imposed they will probably control 90% of all infrastructure including bridges,
tunnels and major highways.
Companions: Only bring these if you're confident they can survive on their own. You might as well bring your children if your companions can't
take care of themselves
Hand Signals: I read an article touting the importance of hand signals for squad based actions. If society collapses chances are you will raid a few
hosues or stores, there may be people holed up inside there. Silence and surprise will be your only allie is such a situation.
Explosives: I fail to see the point in explosives. Stuffing some napalm in an old vodka bottle will probably get you killed, molotov cocktails are a
waste of materials and hardly as destructive as you'd think. If booby traps are what you're after you'd have better luck with deadfalls and tiger
Watches: Watches are important, you need to know what time it is. If you're on top of a mountain 5 miles from base camp you need to get going
before it starts to get dark. You do not want to be stuck in the woods alone in the dark. Also if your compass breaks or you lose it you can tell
you direction based on the time and position of the sun. Also if you have other members in your group you can synchronize with them.
I have had a revelation and decided to change my ultimate plan for survival. If anyone has seen the origianl Dawn of the Dead or Road Warrior you'll
know what I'm talking about. I'm going to join up with a roving band of marauding bikers, we'll cruise through the waste land raiding villages and
towns for oil and food. I'm still going to eat rich people though.
Most of the bug out kits we've discussed here are for wilderness situations. What would people include in an urban bug out kit? I remember the
black out we had here in NY last year, much to my surprise it went quite well but i was stuck without a proper bug out kit. So I threw one together,
here's what I put in it:
1. A small army surplus bag the fit on my belt
2. Weapons: I had a butterfly knife and 3 smaller knives for up close situations. If your going to bring only one knife you don't want to leave it
sticking out of someone's chest. I also brought a roll of quarters
4. Candles. Just in case
5. Minor first aid supplies: I wasn't going to venture more than a mile from my house so I took what I'd ned to get back
6. Water: The blackout happened on the hottest day of the year
7. Boots. Steel toe of course
8. Light clothing. The bedouins of the dessert keep cool by wearing layers of loose clothing to trap the cooler air created by perspiration. I wore
the clothing of course
9. Trade goods. Anything small I thought I could trade just in case. As it turns out people were more than happy to share their food, drink, and
*cough* party supplies
10. Ski mask. If people were going to be looting left and right I was going to get myself a new tv. Oh well, I got a new one anyways
11. Handcuffs. There were no cops, and i remember what NY was like in the 80s
I suppose that's it for now. There're some good responses on here. Except some people seem to have never been in a survival situation. You have
to prepair yourself mentally as well. Things will be a lot different when you're out of water, lost, hungry, your feet are covered in blisters,
you've lost half your supplies, your map is gone, you have no weapons and about 150 people on your tail. If people are looking for you then you will
be running non stop. Up hills, through trees, across highways. The people chasing you will not give up, they will have vehicles and weapons. There
will be no turning back, surender may mean death but so could running blind. Chances are the people chasing you will be military or law enforcement,
they will be trained in this type of thing. The most important thing you can remember is run, just run, don't stop, don't think, just run, don't
take trails or roads. And when there's a helicopter looking for you, climb in a bush, curl up in a ball, and DON'T LOOK AT THE CHOPPER. A human
face is the most discernable feature on you from the vantage point of a chopper.