Originally posted by riley
How does it not exist without space and distance?
I am assuming the double negative there was purposely done, so the question is: How does time exist with space and distance. I think we already agreed that time and space coexist in the physical dimension, as to why, I do not know...
Gravity causes this bend [more specifically in light]. Spacetime distortion does not immediately mean that one can completly 'disapear'.. it just means it can be influenced.
The '4th dimension' does not mean 'another rhelm'.. it is merely one dimension [as in side] of Einstein's formula and a discription of the physical..
How do you define realm?
The existance of fourth dimensional matter is a necessary condition for any bend in spacetime to happen. It is not solely a side, it must have mass for any force to actually make two objects advance towards each other. A theoretical side, cannot give force, it is hard to explain maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can enlighten us.
now I imagine the inside of a blackhole would be very distorted.. but again there is still distance within it; therefore there is time.. one can't exist without the other.
Agreed , time in the blackhole is going at such a rate that it is almost nonexistant to us human beings. The form that blackholes currently take is only their very beginning, it would take eons to see their final form because of the progression of time; to us they are frozen at birth.
We are discussing ID; the idea that there was an intelligence that created the universe. The whole concept of 'god' is personifying this intelligence. For this 'intelligence' to have decided to have created the universe.. it would have had to of existed somewhere and sometime as this action of creation required premeditation
The designing of the universe did not take any premeditation as it was in the birth of the universe that time was created. Spatial dimensions were also created at the beginning fo the universe.
and self awareness enough to want to 'recreate' it's surroundings.
Recreate what? No sorroundings were existant....
Now.. I do not dismiss the possibilty of astral beings existing but they cannot exist nowhere.. be it this rhelm or another they'd still require a somewhere to reside.
Afterthought.. I guess I should brief you on my own 'creation' belief.. it's basically that our universe is one inside a multiuniverse cluster and blackholes are it's 'veins' that connect them all.. when one becomes too condenced that is when it causes a 'big bang'.
How was this multiuniverse created (if it was created at all)?
[edit on 11/10/2005 by AkashicWanderer]