More Evidence Mossad iz Behind most Terror Attacks

Originally posted by phoenixhasrisin
Regardless of whether or not mossad was behind it, I would just like to know if two men with Israeli passports (valid or not) were found to be entering a nuclear facility.

Forged? False Flag operations? Could be Mossad but who really knows. It seems to be a leap that it is.

Let say the Mossad wanted to run an op against nuclear facilities. Why would they even give the agents an Isreali passport? Canada, or New Zealand would be much more appropriate and far less suspicious. But lets say I was testing the security of these facilities and I was not working for Isreal, why not give the dupes an isreali passport. If they are caught where do the fingers then point eh?

if two men with Israeli passports (valid or not) were found to be entering a nuclear facility.

Why would they have thier passports on them in the first place?

Seems like that would go against Israel, incriminate them.
Why would they do that to themselves, if the story is true...?

Doesnt add up, Ill give the story a 9.7 on the BS meter.

[edit on 29/7/2005 by SportyMB]

It appears that nobody here has worked at a nuclear facility.
Passports do not cut it. You must have a badge to enter. If not, you will be escorted by someone. Depending on your level of security requirements, the escort might be unarmed, or it might be two armed guards.
Israeli agents are well aware of our security measures and know better than to do something as blatantly stupid as that. Besides, they have no need in gaining access to a nuclear facility for any secrets. All they have to do is purchase them from a friendly administrations as the Chinese did.

Israel is more interested in other types of info, such as what an administration is thinking at any given moment about Middle East situations. This is important to them as we are one of their only friends, but how friendly we are depends upon what administration is in office.

Just to clarify, I read the whole link, and nobody tried to enter a nuclear power facility. Two men in a moving truck tried to enter the naval base at Kings Bay, which is home to COMSUBLANT and a few Trident missile facilities.

I've been on and off Camp Pendleton a hundred times, both as a Marine and as a Civilian- it's not very hard to get onto a military base, nor are they very secure.

At King's Bay, according to their webpage, you need vehicle registration, proof of insurance, a valid drivers license, and a military ID- A civilian moving van would simply have to get the serviceman they worked for to come with them and present his ID.

www.subasekb.navy.mil...
Go to "before you arrive" and zoom in a few times to read it.

What we have here is a couple of jokers who were not adequately informed on the proceedure for entering the base. This is hardly indicative of the training we would expect from one of the world's foremost intelligence services. This is HIGHLY characteristic of a pair of illegal aliens working for a second-rate moving company. This whole thing is a tempest in a teacup just because bomb sniffing dogs will sometimes give false positives based on the chemical similarities of TNT and diesel fuel, as mentioned at the link itself.

Every other case on that link regarded vehicles stopped on the highways "near" military bases and power plants- although near is a relative term. In one case, the van was simply in the same COUNTY as a power plant.

Answered by vagabond, deleted for space
Did any men with any credentials attempt to enter an American Nuclear facility? It would appear not....

[edit on 29-7-2005 by phoenixhasrisin]

[edit on 29-7-2005 by phoenixhasrisin]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
(I might not feel compelled to explain that if you would not spell "is" with a "z".)

I am also compelled to ask what "Evedencie" is. Certainly not "Evidence" since none of that is present.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
I am also compelled to ask what "Evedencie" is. Certainly not "Evidence" since none of that is present.

I'm pretty sure it's a Russian word which, in rough translation, refers to a verbose argument cobbled together from various irrelevant trivia and proving absolutely nothing about anything.

I'm pretty sure it's a Russian word which, in rough translation, refers to a verbose argument cobbled together from various irrelevant trivia and proving absolutely nothing about anything.

Ba-Da-Bing!!!!

Yeah, what TC said....passports will not suffice.

Hey, I'll tell you what... those who are giving credibility to this cartoonish attempt at "evidence" should please take their American passport and stroll into a "nuclear facility".

When they let you out, post the results of your experiment here.

I'll wait, really...

Originally posted by FredT

Did it? I doubt it. more to the point the source (Its shocking that its not Joe Vidalis) is really an editorial with some news stories cobbled to gether

And when its all checked out, the 'final source' isn't even there. The tracks lead back to a blog entry, of all things, and that blog entry is supposed to be reacting to an article by "Seymour Hersh", but the article isnt' even presented!

Remember that when it comes to the world of international intelligence, there are no good guys in that dirty little game.

Here is Some Links:

Real History and Mossad

Jewish Terrorists

Isreal Shahak

en.wikipedia.org...:Lavon_Affair

If you are going to discuss the Mossad and terrorism, you have to take this article into consideration.

www.anthraxattacks.net...

Just a friendly word of advice Hector, you're unlikely to get many responses if you don't sumarize the content of your links. There is quite a bit of reading in there, most of it covering things that any one with a television already knows.

Wow, I come and I wish to discuss phenomenon of UFOs in Arab world. I have been reading Qoran with eye toward departure of Prophets from Jerusalem in body of heavenly light.

But instead I see this, and I want to say this, is really not news. This give conspiracy theory bad name.

People say anti-semitic. This is true, but it also is the reverse. If you give credit to State of Israeli intelligence MOSSAD for everything, are you not saying that Jews are not inferior but SUPERIOR? Better than everyone else? Able to do great things that the rest of us cannot even think of, in our ways?

Concept is ridiculous if you think about this. Arab stats, Europe states, Asia states, they all have intelligence services. Idea of MOSSAD doing everything is ridiculous. And rather than making "Jews" seem bad, isn't it making them seem better than tthe rest? I think Israels people are same as all others, some good and some bad, but not the SUPERPEEPLE that these anti-Jews say.

You don't want to eat your bran muffin, it could be filled with superkosher items ha?

Concept is ridiculous if you think about this. Arab stats, Europe states, Asia states, they all have intelligence services. Idea of MOSSAD doing everything is ridiculous.

You will find many people who are of that opinion. Some people choose to disregard the fact that many nations have intelligence services who do a whole assortment of things you might not find "politically correct" but instead of acknowledging this, choose to blame everything on Mossad.

I'm sure the Mossad aspires to be capable of 10% of what people blame on them.

Originally posted by smilingarab
People say anti-semitic. This is true, but it also is the reverse. If you give credit to State of Israeli intelligence MOSSAD for everything, are you not saying that Jews are not inferior but SUPERIOR? Better than everyone else? Able to do great things that the rest of us cannot even think of, in our ways?

I know what you mean, but this stream of propaganda doesn't try to make out that Jews aren't clever; just that they are nasty, devious, cunning and not to be trusted. That they are the cause of all the world's ills. This is exactly how Hitler portrayed them to whip up hatred, which is the effect articles like this one try to achieve for the same end.

Attacking Israeli foreign policy and treatment of the Palestinians is perfectly valid (loads of Idealise don't agree with their government) but these articles about Jewish conspiracy just stink of propaganda and hatred.

Originally posted by intrepid
Internet math 101.

Google + 1 bigot = this thread.

:shk:

Why do you use such assinine logic. A person simply questions an organization's methods and you immediately call them a bigot. Any body that ever questions Israel is called a bigot. Well you know what some US citizens are growing tired of this approach and are losing interest in supporting Israel.

Next time someone mentions the Illuminati and George Bush I will call them a bigot since they are obviously racist against white people. Stop with the false bigot claims.

Just so I'm clear, a bigot is a guy with more than one wife, right? Like the guy who was charged with bigomany?

[edit on 2-8-2005 by GrandCourtJester]

GrandCourt, well no, here's the definition of
bigot
NOUN:
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

and here's
bigamy
NOUN:
The criminal offense of marrying one person while still legally married to another.