Avian Influenza (Bird Flu) Links and Discussion Threads

Originally posted by Valhall
gman,

the infected people are "showing signs of bruising" which would be indicative of this type of virus.

*Valhall heads off to worry more*

H5N1 also presents with "dark/purple bruising" as was the 1918 pandemic.

One thing just playing devils advocate here. Streptococcus (which they claim it is) can cause bleeding esp. in the case of a massive infection. The clotting cascade can be easy to disrupt esp if the the patient is septic and bleeding is a byproduct it also can cause a phenomenon called DIC or disseminated intravascular coagulation where you body uses up all its clotting factors in a rapid fashion and then just starts bleeding out.

I pulled up one such incident and have many more

On December 10, 1993, the New Mexico Department of Health (NMDH) received a report of a previously healthy 4-month-old girl (patient 1) who died from septic shock with petechiae and hemorrhage into the adrenal glands, heart, and diaphragm. Blood and tissue cultures were negative. However, because her clinical presentation suggested meningococcemia, a prophylactic regimen of rifampin was prescribed for infants, toddlers, and staff at the CCC she attended. On February 9, 1994, a 7-month-old infant (patient 2) who attended the same CCC died from septic shock, purpura, and Waterhouse-Friderichsen syndrome. Gram-positive cocci were detected on a smear of the patient's blood buffy coat, and a latex agglutination test on cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) indicated infection with S. pneumoniae as the cause of death; pneumococcal infection was confirmed by polymerase chain reaction (PCR), using primers for the pneumococcal autolysin gene on autopsy tissue, and by counterimmunoelectrophoresis (CIE) of CSF (serogroup 19). Analysis of autopsy tissue from patient 1, using the same PCR assay, suggested that she also had died from pneumococcal infection.
www.findarticles.com...

(This report is for a six (6) year old boy that presented with diarrhea)

Full report: www.cdc.gov...

A patient with H5N1 influenza virus infection was reported to have diarrhea as the initial symptom, which raises the question of whether the gastrointestinal tract may is another site of viral replication and shedding, similar to its function in avian species.

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We did not detect any positive staining in columnar epithelium, which is the usual target for influenza virus infection in humans (19), which suggests that the virus targeted primarily lung tissue and not airway epithelium. Similarly, we did not find viral antigen in bronchiolar epithelium in the lung sections. Columnar epithelium in both the trachea and bronchiole was intact, thus providing adequate columnar epithelial cells for evaluation. The lack of pathologic changes is consistent with the absence of viral infection in these tissues.

This may be the reason H5N1 can sliently spread....there have been a number of deaths in India attributed to diarrhea, maybe H5N1 in disguise?

I think more countries should test for specific H5N1 markers for all unusual deaths.

[edit on 25-7-2005 by gman55]

There is reason for more concern in China today from translated Boxum reports as follows....

The outbreak in Shenzhen is currently showing signs of a serious explosion. Many districts appear to be controlled areas, with disinfection and burial activities being carried out. Food and hygiene control measures have been implemented. Restrictions have also been placed on people's movements

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Locals have accused authorities of ignoring the initial signs of the outbreak in early June and of reporting it to be a non-communicable disease when it was infectious in nature. Authorities have also not provided any information with regards to the nurses and doctors that contracted the disease and died in the initial stage of the outbreak.

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It is believed authorities can adopt the tried and tested method of isolating victimes and letting them die with minimal risk to others. The plan for this has already been drawn up. It involves the sealing off of the epidemic area to breakt he chains of transmission. Infected patients would be allowed to gradually die off. Simultaneously, dis-infection / de-contamination would take place. This would continue until the case numbers were sufficiently low for contaminment, following which information would be gradually released, the quarantine would be lifted and announcement would be made that the outbreak had been contained.

Full translation here..

discuss.agonist.org...

This is getting out of control when governments let their people die.

This is very distrubing...like a shipwreck with no lifeboats and the steward holding all of the lifejackets for himself.

(ref: Dr. Niman)
Commentary
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China Closes Lab Isolating and Sequencing H5N1 Bird Flu

Recombinomics Commentary
July 26, 2005

A laboratory jointly run by universities in Hong and China said on Tuesday it had suspended studies into the H5N1 bird flu virus after Beijing issued new guidelines which triggered fears of a crackdown on academic freedom and independent research into the deadly disease.

The new rules were issued on May 30, five days after the Joint Influenza Research Centre sent an article to the international journal Nature which said that infected wild birds in western China might have picked up the virus from poultry farms in southern China.

A day after the article was published, Jia Youling, director general of the Ministry of Agriculture's Veterinary Bureau, criticised the findings and said no bird flu had broken out in southern China this year.

The closing of an independent lab in China is cause for concern. The lab has been doing H5N1 research in collaboration with Yi Guan's lab at Hong Kong University. The publication in Nature clearly demonstrated that H5N1 was present in 2005 in eastern China, even though China had filed no OIE reports in 2005 prior to the May 21 report on Qinghai Lake. Subsequent reports were filed on outbreaks in Xinjiang province, but there are still no reports of H5N1 in China in 2005 east of Qinhai Lake.

The 2005 isolates from Shantou in Guangdong Province were of particular interest, because five of the eight genes were virtually identical to the corresponding genes from Qinghai Lake isolates, clearly demonstrating a relationship between the H5N1 tarnsmitted betaeween two regions in China. The lack of the PB2 mutation E627K in isolates outside of Qinghai Lake supports the notion that the isolates in Shantou may be from earlier Qinghai Lake infections instead of precursors of the Qinghai Lake isolates. However, the relationship demands more study.

China's actions strongly suggest they want to control and withhold vital information regarding H5N1 in China. The sequences will like be appearing throughout Asia and Europe via migratory birds wintering in China and Russia, but samples collected as the H5N1 evolves this season will be particularly important because of the lethality associated with Qinghai isolates and the H5N1 endemic to much of Asia, including China in general and Guangdong Province in particular.

The Qinghai isolates, as well as isolates from Vietnam, share many polymorphisms with isolates from Guangdong province. Independent studies of this region should be increased not decreased.

The timing of the new announcement, in view of the 20 isolates deposited at GenBank and Los Alamos (which included all 12 isolates collected at Qinghai Lake), as well as the virulence of the Qinghai isolates, increases concerns that there is a raging pandemic in China and information on H5N1 is being withheld.


Should'nt this kind of action be deemed unaceptable by the international community? Where is the SC from the UN? There has to be a united action from all countries to force China to come clean and allow inspectors into the affected areas..

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[edit on 26-7-2005 by gman55]

Maybe some of our concerned members out there can use this resource for informing a suprizingly large unbelieving portion of humanity and loved ones of the predicted pandemic. Very well writen too.

Bird Flu:
Communicating the Risk
by Peter M. Sandman and Jody Lanard
Health authorities want to spread the word that avian influenza has brought the world perilously close to a new flu pandemic. But raising awareness about uncertain threats can itself be perilous. Two leading risk communication experts offer advice on how to sound the alarm.

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Full article here...

www.paho.org...

Interesting report of possible pandemic conditions in China.

www.theepochtimes.com...

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Dr Yi Guan, a H5N1 researcher at Hong Kong University, analyzed genetic samples from avian flu-stricken birds and published his findings in the journal Nature on May 25. He and his American and Chinese colleagues described strong similarities between the viral genes of wild birds in western China, and H5N1 in affected poultry farms found earlier in southern China. They also discovered that the Qinghai geese contained "virulence genes" that had a 100 percent mortality rates in both chickens and mice in the lab.


Again, Chinas lack of cooporation is putting the world at risk!

This is an excellent recap of all the things that happened in Asia as of late. With all the news reports flying around and governments hedging on information, this articel gives a great chronological broad look at this threat.

Full article link...

www.asiaone.com.sg...

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China may not be alone in under-reporting H5N1.

In India, where pigeons died en masse on one occasion in 2004, the blood of poultry workers collected in 2002 shows antibodies to H5N1. Officially, though, India has no H5N1. This month's first human cases in Indonesia, with two deaths, may be linked to trips made to India and Hong Kong.

Alas, this stonewalling can kill as the H5N1 acquires more lethal genes - like Ebola genes.

Although it has never been officially seen outside Africa, the intrepid Boxun.com reported last April an Ebola outbreak in Shenzen, next to Hong Kong, which the authorities denied. Now, Boxun sources tell them that the Sichuan outbreak is the rapidly evolving Ebola SZ-77 strain which can infect birds, so it may be tied to bird flu at Qinghai.

Potentialy Deadly Bird flu may spread around the world, to your house. Epidemic
Potential Deadly Bird flu may spread world, to your house. Epidemic

(LINK: www.newstarget.com...

(LINK: www.sciencedaily.com...
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Precautions:::
If you see a hundred dead birds laying on your front door:
I Complaining to the landlord... or
II Poke them... or
III Drive them to the vet... or
IIII Through bread at them... or
IIIII Pretend your in a movie called bird attacks... or
IIIIII Pretend there's a deadly bird flu virus spreading across the world and that you should start to wear a paper mask and possibly gloves. But that's about it.
IIIIIII OR You could just get on with your life and ignore it.

Be safe

And now in Russia. One hour ago

www.washingtonpost.com...

It could also be dangerous concerning migrating geese and birds coming to separate countries.

BBCDOWN)
news.bbc.co.uk...

^^^^^ A lot of links are attached to the sight above. ^^^^^ Its also in the Philippines.

INDIA DAILY SPEAK OF HUMAN CIVILIZATION

www.indiadaily.com...

BRID FLU LATEST LINKS INFO
www.sars.com.sg...

US and other nations brace for bird flu
World Peace Herald, DC - Jul 14, 2005
... braces for a pandemic of the deadly disease, infectious ... The concern is the bird-flu virus will adapt to ... is becoming better adapted at spreading from person to ...
www.wpherald.com...

They burned the birds thinking it would help rid the virus.