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Originally posted by Malkut:
Do you think that the allged tortures and abuses are helping the US image and help decrease acts of terrorism? Is that your point?
Originally posted by Seekerof:
yes, that is exactly my point.
Originally posted by Seekerof
When Souljah ceases with the rhetoric, then the rhetoric returned ceases.
This has been a long a spawning process between him and I, anyhow, correct, Souljah?
Originally posted by Seekerof
Of that list you provided, which are acts of abuse and which are acts of torture, Souljah?
Be well...I need to move on.
I enjoyed this interaction, as I always do.
Originally posted by Army
Gee, another list from the ACLU.
Originally posted by skippytjc
Nothing wrong at Club Gitmo at all. Maybe you guys should comment on all the REAL toruture that happens in this world
Originally posted by Sand_man
Originally posted by skippytjc
Nothing wrong at Club Gitmo at all. Maybe you guys should comment on all the REAL toruture that happens in this world
How old are you ? I'll loved to see you get taken away to Guantánamo Bay, to have all you rigths disappear. You would cry like a baby. Can you please relax the drama this is a adults fourm not a day time soap opera.
"The Guantanamo Guidebook was made by Channel 4 using declassified documents about the US camp, producers said.
The methods used on seven volunteers in the show included religious and sexual humiliation, forced nudity, sleep deprivation and extreme temperatures."
news.bbc.co.uk...
Article by "Prisoner 73" on his experience
"Total deprivation of sleep, food and water, exposure to extreme heat and cold, up to 20 minutes in stress positions, up to 2 hours listening to white noise... plus any other interrogation technique deemed acceptable by the interrogation team' By any standards the waiver I signed for "Guantanamo Guidebook" was special, and two weeks later when I was lying naked, shaved, shackled in a ball on the floor, alone with a hood over my head, listening to white noise with a cold fan at my back, I realized just how superficial the term 'informed consent' can be."
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..in front of the others they stripped me, shackled me to a chair and shaved my head. When I didn't react to their taunts they then carried me out, still in the chair, to an unheated room, put the white noise earphones on and left me with a fan to chill me.
Their white noise sounded like a woman screaming, played backwards and repeated on a short cycle so that the drone becomes repetitive and inescapable, particularly because a single word - 'inhuman' - is said forwards repeatedly on top of the track.
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I don't regret participating in the show, hard as it was. My beliefs on the subject have crystallised and I think I have a better understanding of myself under pressure - if nothing else I've learnt what sleep deprivation can do and my academic studies may be saved as a consequence - but if anything comes out of this programme, I hope it is that people stop and genuinely think about what we are willing to do to protect ourselves. I, for one, would rather we missed some intelligence sources and even took casualties than put innocents through what I went through; if we loose our humanity then we have lost the War on Terror.
Originally posted by Hashbaby
Maybe you did not read the first post. (i.e. the army has admitted to abuses being carried out in gitmo)
Maybe you should follow the post before posting your inhumane rant...
Perhaps if you cannot, then you should refrain from commenting on situations where other people are suffering.
Or you could just comment on your nice new sofa and coffee table you just bought...
Originally posted by Army
Abuse? Hell, then Army Basic Training must be too abusive for you guys! Oh my gosh...LOUD MUSIC! (well, granted, if it was Celine Dion, I would be crying for the ACLU also) TOO HOT IN THE ROOM, GOLLY, IT"S ALMOST 100F! From a people who live in 135-145F....etc.
Originally posted by Army
The military agreed to 4-5 minor discomforts that were given to these terrorists, but you insist that your list absolutely occured. Who's list is this again? The ACLU? Did it occur to you that the ACLU has NO, NONE, ZERO, NADA jursidiction, nor lawful prudence, outside the USA? AMERICAN civil liberties union has NO say how combat detainees held in another country should, or alledgedly were, treated. Do you know how the ACLU even GOT the list, or where it came from? I'll give you a hint....the people are known as lawyers, and they represent the detainees, who gave them a list of alledged "torture and abuse".
C'mon, there are so many people involved in the containment of detainees, don't you think at least ONE would come forward to admit HE did anything bad? Oh, sorry, that would require actually thinking, something conspiritists sadly lack the ability for........