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Islamic new world order?

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posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 12:42 PM
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Islamic new world order?

People always say that the west and America is leading the world to the new world order. Are there equal comspiracies that suggest maybe other continents are planning the same thing? People say its the Zionists that run America and and their is facist uprising. What about the Muslim world is there going to be a future take over? Its what they want? What about China? What do you think and have you got any interesting info.

Would prefer to hear of a new world order that does not involve the west




posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 12:47 PM
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islam and the new world order have been brought up afew times in the past....

ill try and find the old threads



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 05:04 PM
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I was working on a similar subject today at work actually. While I would be hard pressed to consider it an Islamic NWO, it is fascinating to think about the EXTREMELY small percent of Muslims who believe that it is necessary for the establishment of a worldwide caliphate with the Mediah (might be the wrong word,) ruling over a world governed under the laws of Shariah. Count me out personally, Shariah garb for women would just take all the fun out of life.



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 09:12 PM
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i dont think that any other countries are planning their own NWO. if any other country is even thinking about an NWO it is only a dream, they know they cant take over the United States, so i dont think they would waste their time with something like that, they would most likely waste their time on manufacturing more ak-47s, or even better, MIG fighters, lol. and people dont post or send me U2Us on how ignorant i am because you think MIGs are good fighter planes. they were good 15 years ago, but they are so outdated, and in a training exercise, something like 2 or 3 Raptors shot down i believe it was 13 or 14 MIGs before the raptors even showed up on the MIGs radar.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 12:04 PM
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For example this website below mentions Iraqs new leader,

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Mahmood Ahmadinejad said his election coincided with what he termed a new Islamic revolution.

"The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world," Ahmadinejad said. "In one night, the martyrs strode down a path of 100 years

www.worldtribune.com...

It could be unrealistic talk to get people on his side but if he is serious are we looking at another Sadam but worse?

Already Muslims are getting their way in the west with own courts and own Banks to fit their needs even if it means twisting that countries policies.

Example

www.islamic-bank.com...

Not only this but courts as well, are they getting their way and is there a hidden agenda that one day an Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world. Its not about now but about the future, will the west submit to allah as it slowly gives up Christianity due to political correctness. New World Order organisations would love Islamic law to take care of us it will keep us in order.



posted on Jul, 5 2005 @ 03:26 PM
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But what have said above does not really compare to how many countries use the dollar and how many American bases are in the rest of the world. Maybe democracy is more adaptable and less threatning thats why they are seen as helpers for the act of defence.

Once china blooms will it become the new America in 50 years time or will its international relations stop it ever from spreading, they could be forced to change for democracy.



posted on Jul, 5 2005 @ 08:27 PM
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BS. There will never be an Islamic New World Order they just aren't that powerful. There is already a New World Order out there and already planning for the take over.



posted on Jul, 5 2005 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Baphomet79
worldwide caliphate with the Mediah (might be the wrong word,) ruling over a world governed under the laws of Shariah

I won't claim to understand the situation in any detail, but I beleive that the ruler is called a caliph (amoung the sunni and simply an iman amoung the shia), whereas medinah is meant to refer to the City of Medina.

Its possible you are also thinking of the Mahdi. The Mahdi, from what I gather, is a guy that comes back at the end of the world, and I think that the shia beleive he is a descendant of Mo (iow, is the iman)

The interesting thing about the NWO and Islam (besides the idea that islam is part of the christian apocalypse which is usually associated with the NWO) is that the Ismaleeh and Shia are often looked upon as 'Illuminati like' conspirators within the islamic world. The sunnis will often see them as apostates, who work behind the scenes to secretely bring about an evil government that will rule the (islamic) world. Indeed, thats somewhat like what happened in Persia, where a sufis (I think) came to the throne.

The other thing that I have been fortunate enough to learn is that the Shia tend to beleive that shaitan/satan comes into the world at important times, to oppose the 'good guy' of that time (whether its Mo, Jesus, or one of the shia imans). I think that this is why the iranian mullahs choose to refer to the US as "the great Satan"

Interestingly, many muslims are concerned that there is too much 'secularism' in the world today, and that there is something like a secularist conspiracy afoot. This, for many people, is the sin qua non of the NWO.



posted on Jul, 6 2005 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by The time lord
For example this website below mentions Iraqs new leader,

"The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world," Ahmadinejad said. "In one night, the martyrs strode down a path of 100 years


Islam, democracy, what's the difference?



posted on Jul, 6 2005 @ 05:16 AM
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In my opinion , the new world order will not be this or that country or religion. The new world order will be led by one person, who will set out deceive many people and nations. He will seem pleaseing to so many. He will be christ like, Yet NOT CHRIST. be prepared. Don't be fooled or misled by somone who will try to bring us all down with him.
The Anti Christ is here. And is preparing his enterence into all. He will be yet the greaest deceiver of them all. I don't know who or where he is, other then he will soon appear.
But that's my opinion.



posted on Jul, 8 2005 @ 01:50 PM
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There could be an shadow coilition type thing going on for example all of Sadams leaders betrayed him within the government, where are they now who have they hooked up with?

I would not be suprised if Al Qaeda is just a part of the scenario towards a new world order and all these conspiracy types organisations are linking up world wide towards a common goal and this includes people from all nations.

Maybe the nature of the new world order has chamged, rather have people against it have people united with a common amibition.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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Some people see Islam as an oppressive ideology but so do many human rights activists, as Muslim population populations so do the demands increase and so does the violence and fear that comes with it. Ironically Islam calls the free world oppressors for not being Islamic. Try telling that to the laws of intolerance of others opinions and religions in the Middle East who have little self expression of other worldly views without being persecuted.

It cannot be bargained with because communism or democracy can not fit into its walls and others who try and blend into Islamic countries have to abide to strict laws that forbid basic human expression. Which means it always has to fight everything else in its path and it’s as its own prophet fought his way too to conquest and is just the same pattern that keeps getting reflected back. It has a mechanism in which to cause people to submit or face rebellion over however small the conflict. The wars are fought in court over silly demands about crosses in public places, about handling of pork at work. Anything against Islam in point of view or illustration causes riots and protests which ignite the Islamic world which in turn brings fear to the public who will think twice to even mention anything about it. There is no way back in Islam it cannot separate government and religion as it is all one thing, but the politicians in the West never admit to it.

Every corner of the world be it Thailand, Africa, China, Russia, Pakistan, India that cannot compromise with Islam has extremist conflicts and violence. It is like a virus that once it grows will consume its host into submission and the so called oppression lost in translation will make sure the infidel abides to its forever restricted laws and intolerant backlash.

People who are educated will know that the same patterns have been going on since its birth 1400 years ago but people are either awake to or bury their heads in the sand.

But can it take the world with it? Muslims would love to take the world over its in their scriptures to do so. Biblically Jesus also would like man to spread information about the Son of God so the two paths are in conflict if not in waiting to see who wins the prediction and prophecies.

This is why the Middle East hates Israel, that is why even the devil hates Israel too because God has a promise for Israel and the Jews and to break that it means the Devil wins or delays his power over the earth. That is why Christianity and other religions cannot have a fair deal in the Middle East and why for some Christians the system of the religion is very anti-Christ like because it denies Christ as the min component of its beliefs.

But if the anti-Christ had to make a move then the Middle East is a start and like prophecy suggests the main event for the end of the world will involve those areas.



posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Muslim religious leaders and dictators have been saying it for years under Western noses, their plan is to one day take over Europe and the world, and they want Israel and even the city of Rome because somewhere in their scriptures it tells them to.
It cannot be coincidence that so many Muslims have come to Rome recently, they have been told to take over it by extremists and the ones who have not been told will ultimately agree of finding ways into power to take over sections of the city and no doubt this is going on at a rapid rates all over Europe while people sleep and defend Islam as a religion of peace while church attendances fall because speaking about Christ at school is offensive the next thing are empty ones converted to Mosques and yes this does happen but sorry to say you will never hear of it on the News because that would be offensive.
Tony Blair has a Muslim relative who wants him trialled for the Iraq war so I guess even Muslim family members will turn back on family at some point. White females who marry Arabs never see their children because they run back to their countries with their children and they find it impossible to get them back even if it was done illegally. The cultural divide is vast, the rest of the world don't get on and even the schools, public places or your hospital death bed gets compromised because it might offend their religion. I like all people Muslims are just people but you cannot hide the ideology behind saying its called racism, if it were communists from Russia I am sure people would complain too if the same dividing line was preached back.

Is there a conspiracy I say there is, an Islamic New World order with all the trimmings are included and it may be going on while you sit at your computers talking about how Christianity is wrong, well good luck I hope you enjoy your new friends of peace.


During a two-day visit to Italy in August 2010 Gaddafi upset his hosts by stating that Europe should convert to Islam. It was during a lecture in front of 200 young women whom Gaddafi had paid a modeling agency to attend that he urged the women to convert to Islam and, according to one of them, said "Islam should become the religion of all of Europe." Each of the women was given a copy of the Qur'an.[75] Gaddafi, in a speech that aired on Al-Jazeera TV on April 10, 2006, said: "There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe - without swords, without guns, without conquests. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."
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en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Think your confusing a lot of local tribal traditions that just happen to be in Islamic nations with the actual Islamic faith itself. Go on holiday to Tehran or la Hore please. You might be in for a bit of a surprise.



posted on Feb, 27 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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What's happening is that American and European Socialists are taking advantage of poverty and bad conditions in places like Egypt and Tunisia and engaging them in Union protests. I have been following this now, and at first I was hopeful but now I am finding who is behind the curtain.

This AFL-CIO Trumka leader talks about Global Governance and is involved with European Socialists, goes to the WH to talk to the Occupier regularly.
www.impeachobamacampaign.com...
www.youtube.com...

GLobal Governance is code for NWO. It is terminology in UN Agenda 21.

Or thats part of the puzzle. Muslim Brotherhood had Masonic ties. But El Baradei has ties to the Socialists. Bill Ayers and Code Pink have been to Egypt in the last year. How deep does this rabbit hole go.
The whole Rome thing is new to me for sure. While European Socialists are promoting Socialism over in Egypt, radicals here and in Britain are promoting Sharia Law.
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I think Glenn Beck summarized it well when he called it Islamic Socialism.
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