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America Supports You ! (dont read our privacy statement or disclaimer)

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posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 02:27 AM
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RANT recently posted this link in his thread.

americasupportsyou.mil...

Which is a great place to show your support for american troops.

But has anyone tried to read the disclaimer, or the privacy statement at the bottom?

For me the privacy statement is this link:
east.defenselink.mil...

Disclaimer this:
east.defenselink.mil...

Etc. But none of these links work, all access is forbidden!


on a military web site !

Whats the deal ?

if the problem is fixex, mods can delete this.




posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 02:52 AM
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Both links on the page work fine for me.

Disclaimer for External Links
The appearance of external hyperlinks does not constitute endorsement by the United States Department of Defense of the linked web sites, or the information, products or services contained therein. For other than authorized activities such as military exchanges and Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) sites, the United States Department of Defense does not exercise any editorial control over the information you may find at these locations. All links are provided consistent with the mission of America Supports You. Please let us know about existing external links which you believe are inappropriate and about specific additional external links which you believe ought to be included.

Privacy & Security

1. The America Supports You website is provided as a public service by the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense-Public Affairs.
2. Information presented on this website is considered public information and may be distributed or copied unless otherwise specified. Use of appropriate byline/photo/image credits is requested.
3. Privacy Act Statement - If you choose to provide us with personal information – like filling out a Contact Us form with e-mail and/or postal addresses – we only use that information to respond to your message or request. We will only share the information you give us with another government agency if your inquiry relates to that agency, or as otherwise required by law. We never create individual profiles or give it to any private organizations. DefenseLINK never collects information for commercial marketing. While you must provide an e-mail address or postal address for a response other than those generated automatially in response to questions or comments that you may submit, we recommend that you NOT include any other personal information, especially Social Security numbers. The Social Security Administration offers additional guidance on sharing your Social Security number.
4. For site management, information is collected for statistical purposes. This government computer system uses software programs to create summary statistics, which are used for such purposes as assessing what information is of most and least interest, determining technical design specifications, and identifying system performance or problem areas.
5. For site security purposes and to ensure that this service remains available to all users, this government computer system employs software programs to monitor network traffic to identify unauthorized attempts to upload or change information, or otherwise cause damage.
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posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 02:54 AM
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Neither one works for me.
That's pretty funny actually. Not that I think they're trying to hide anything. It's just pretty amusing.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:10 AM
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Thats strange how it could work for some people only.

I only have problems with the links I specified, anything with the east.defenselink etc.

Its not a browser issue, as none of my browsers could get it to work.

Strange.

[edit on 29-6-2005 by Dulcimer]



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:14 AM
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Maby it only works if you'r accessing it from the US and not from other countries...?



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by sebastiaan
Maby it only works if you'r accessing it from the US and not from other countries...?


Thats what I was thinking, but I havnt tried it yet. I could try it via proxy.

But its strange, why they would put the privacy policy, disclaimer etc where it is.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:17 AM
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Nope, because I'm in the US and it's not working for me.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by sebastiaan
Maby it only works if you'r accessing it from the US and not from other countries...?


That may very well be what it is. I'm accessing the pages from the states.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:20 AM
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You are not authorized to view this page

is all I get, Im in the US as well.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:22 AM
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It's a conspiracy I tell you! The military doesn't want us reading their privacy statements or disclaimers!



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:27 AM
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I could see it not being a big deal if it was any ole website, but a military website?

and its strange because people in and out of the states cant view it, so it cant be specific to a geographic location.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:29 AM
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I seriously doubt it's a big deal. I don't know programing so I can't say what would cause it to do that, but I really doubt it's anything major. I mean at least one person read it and posted it here. It's just a standard looking statement and disclaimer.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by Dulcimer
RANT recently posted this link in his thread.

americasupportsyou.mil...

Which is a great place to show your support for american troops.


And a great place to get a 3 ton cookie apparantly. I don't know what anchors I got laden with over there, but my computer was wheezing and whining withing minutes. Was it my breath or what I had to say about the Iraq War?

If you go, I would NOT sign in.



[edit on 29-6-2005 by RANT]



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:44 AM
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Its probably the same crap we had with official US sites during last election, everyone overseas was locked out.

This is most likely to prevent foreigners to post negative comments about the war. They can't do anything about that. And if an American posts negative comments on that site, I'm pritty sure the person is screwed and will get reemed.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:46 AM
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Um, unless something has changed drastically, I'm IN the US and it doesn't work for me. The ONLY think on that site that didn't work was the privacy statement and the disclaimer. I had no problems sending a message or doing anything else there.



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
Um, unless something has changed drastically, I'm IN the US and it doesn't work for me. The ONLY think on that site that didn't work was the privacy statement and the disclaimer. I had no problems sending a message or doing anything else there.


The website is probably set up to check your system for cookies of various anti-war/anti-America sites. Upon finding any, the links to the privacy policy and disclaimer are blocked and your information is sent to every spam dealer on the net



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 04:24 AM
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America's patriotism gives me shivers, it's nauseating to think that there's people out there that feel good about this kind of propaganda.
If you wrapped a turd in a flag and called it a freedom steamer, you could sell thousands of them if the catch phrase was 'support the troops'.

Seriously, what's the point of this website? Why do they make a little graphic of a heart wrapped in a US flag atop a ribbon and a catch phrase 'Thank the troops for your Freedom!'?

Would Americans be talking arabic today if the troops didn't invade Iraq, is that what they mean here?

Do countries without a pre-emptive military not have Freedom?

This is just patriotic crap, it should be archived and placed next to Nazi propaganda for histories sake because these are the things which taint peoples logic.



"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." - Samuel Johnson

"Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons." - Bertrand Russell

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." - Benjamin Franklin

"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it" - George Bernard Shaw


If you want to show your support, visit an independent site, one that's been established since day one to support the troops and not when Bush's Poll rating is at an all time low, the ones which raise money to protect the troops, to armor their humvees etc, the ones which actually want to show support rather than just fish for compliments so when a new war is started they can flash a number of how many people sent messages of support.

Don't play up to their games and become a statistic for their propaganda because you can bet that NO message that isn't toeing government line is getting to those troops, no matter how much support you show to the individual, if you mention a bad word about the war or government the troops won't get it in full or at all.

America doesn't support you, if they did they wouldn't even need this website because the troops wouldn't be getting their ass served in Iraq right now.

The internet porn boom made 'Adult' a dirty word, well 'Freedom' has been abused so much that it now holds very little original meaning.
America doesn't know what freedom is anymore, the meaning of the word itself has been lost on a lot of the population and replaced with an empty shell of a word which blankets logic from realising the very meaning of the word. You don't thank a government for your 'freedom' when they are draining your economy for a false war while dishing out Patriot Acts and changes to your constitution to remove your rights! How obvious can it be that your being played and your patriotism is being abused?

Shallow words with red, white and blue graphics are not reality.
Shouldn't this image pretty much make the propaganda and irony of this website blatently obvious?





posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 04:34 AM
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Well we can't exactly send a message to all the soldiers that fought in the Revolutionary War, WWI, and WWII to thank them for our freedom, and the military IS responsible for giving us that freedom, so what's worng with thanking our troops that are fighting NOW for defending that freedom. If you don't like it, fine, but what gives you the right to say things like you did about those of us that DO want to post messages saying thank you to them, and don't care if it's a government webiste or not. The point of it is to get a message to the troops! So WHAT if it comes from your website, or my website, or the Pentagon website! Or even what the website looks like. If they want to put flags all over it, or hearts, or purple teddy bears, SO WHAT. How does it affect you how the webiste looks like?



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
If you don't like it, fine, but what gives you the right to say things like you did about those of us that DO want to post messages saying thank you to them, and don't care if it's a government webiste or not. The point of it is to get a message to the troops! So WHAT if it comes from your website, or my website, or the Pentagon website! Or even what the website looks like. If they want to put flags all over it, or hearts, or purple teddy bears, SO WHAT. How does it affect you how the webiste looks like?



Typical response that didn't notice the point going flying past them to begin with.

You'll understand one day why this is pure propaganda and an abuse of your patriotism, until then....


I guess it's true when they say history repeats and i'm sure very few Germans had any idea what was ahead of them in the early 30s.





[edit on 29-6-2005 by TheShroudOfMemphis]



posted on Jun, 29 2005 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by sebastiaan
Maby it only works if you'r accessing it from the US and not from other countries...?


I tried it from Canada with Mozilla and I.E. and could not view either. Isolationist wouldn't you say. Many around the world hate the war, but support the U.S. troops. They've been bamboozled as much as anyone.








 
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