NICE PICS!!!

And as they showed in the pics, these guys r experts in hand-2-hand combat. With respect, but I think they could take anybody in a hand-2-hand fight, IN THE WORLD!!!

Originally posted by russiankid
is it a sniper rifle??? i only found one picture

Yes, and it's got a weird feature 4 a sniper rifle: Semi and Fully Automatic fire. 4 a 10-rd mag, o'goody, but 4 the 20 rd mags, it's worth it, but still, auto on a sniper rifle? nice though

... it nice... u killed somebody with a sniper rifle... and now there are about 10 angry solidres or w/e after u... u can use the rifle as a assault rifle (or sub machine i have no idea)

The vintorez is not a sniper. Its more of a special purpose rifle or something like that. It is designed for use in special operations not just as a sniper.

Yeah, that's the sweat part, but the range isn't as good of say a SR-25, or a M24, but it's size makes that obvious. It's better 4 like Urban Terrian, or like thick jungles and forests I would say.

Originally posted by SEAL Trident
O'yeah, I just mean it's harsh conpared 2 Western Training. When u pass, it's great. In a way, I feel like the training is more dangerous than the missions. It's that bad in safety. REALLY! The actual training, yeah, like u said, but it's about ppl wondering if they're going 2 die during training that gets me. But hey, there r like 15,000 of these guys, so it can't b so bad.


P.S. That's all of Spetznaz: 15,000, even from the Navy and all.

The bold comment I felt was uneeded.

Originally posted by tomcat ha
The vintorez is not a sniper. Its more of a special purpose rifle or something like that. It is designed for use in special operations not just as a sniper.

Yeah, that's true. Kind or like the American Spec Ops SPR MK12 Rifle, that's like a sniper version from the M16.

its just some extra info it doesnt hurt anybody besides its nice to know

All I'm saying is that although the training is harsh and dangerously unsafe, it can't b so bad with 15,000 in Spetznaz. Nothing bad was meant by it.

yea i guess that nothing bad was meant by it but ive heard that they treat new guys like trash in there... the older guys make them do everything

Originally posted by russiankid
\groza means "threat" in russian

... i confused groza with ygroza... lol groza=thunder

I wonder if the AN-94 will be used by Army regulars as well...

It's 2 hard 2 disassemble and assemble. It's a good weapon, but it's better 4 special forces, who r experts, so they can use them easily.

[edit on 3-7-2005 by SEAL Trident]

Hi, this might be a "dead" thread but I found it today so, ill share some intel that I got about spetznas, a relative to me is as we speak a operative in the spetznas, I dont know wich regement nor unit, but he go 6 years of training for the spetznas when he was 25 he started hes special forces training and joined the army when he was 18. He has seen action in afghanistan, iraq, checneya, africa and some other places. About the weapons, I dont know "all" the weapons they use but I know one thing and that is that he uses a special built SVD its not the clasical wood version, its in some black coloured material. He also have another rifle that looks like a SVD but with a silencer. He uses a "leshi" suit looks like a ordinary ghillie suit but it is alot more conftable. Ive never seen him with a helmet. Hes entire unit(except him) were killed in iraq 1 year ago including hes best childhood friend. I dont think that he is sane anymore, he has stopt writing to me so I guess that hes either dead or lost in action.