Spinning object in sky videod by me

hard to tell, it seemed far away when it was half the size of my
little fingernail at arms length against the sky.

so, let me see, probly like the size of an Ice-cream van?

any place where I could upload a 1.3gb file



[edit on 27-6-2005 by TrentReznor]

very nice trent , very nice ineed i think that this maybe sum sort of craft albeit a militery or a space/demensianol craftIMO

video was awesome dude!....was amazed.and it takes a lot to amaze me i tell ya.

wish i could see that first hand (i think we all do )

neways liek i sed great vid nice work dude!! *claps*up::

Weird...

Looks like a balloon to me - but ya know its hard to tell..

What's up with your eyes in the video - r u some kinda hybrid or somethin??

I agree BF2 frikkin' rocks - whats your online tag?

^^ Here come the ballon guys..haha.


but trent the video is VERY convicing my mom a "christian" was even amazed and she usually trys to debunk/laugh it off. and nine inch nails awesome band there playing in my CD player right now. peace man


and you also got a WATS vote from me

[edit on 27-6-2005 by Makaveli777back]

I havent seen any mods talk about this yet, thay almost always have some
good insight on most threads, I would like to here what think about this
video and if anything more should be done with it. I would realy!! love
to here what Stanton T. Friedman would have to say about it.

do any mods keep in touch with him?

Originally posted by slayerfan
I havent seen any mods talk about this yet, thay almost always have some
good insight on most threads, I would like to here what think about this
video and if anything more should be done with it. I would realy!! love
to here what Stanton T. Friedman would have to say about it.

do any mods keep in touch with him?

I'm not a mod, but I do have his email and contact him once in a great while regarding information I need. Does anyone (preferrably the op) want me to email him the thread? Just let me know.

Man oh man I wish GAZROK were on to this thread.............

He is the MAIN man IMO when it comes to such a topic....


TRG* goes looking...."GAZ? OH GAZ!!! HEY GAZROK! LOOKIE HERE!!"


Oh I know he will eventually be on this thread, sharing his words on this matter..........

i think gazrok is probably holding off until further information comes up
but thats just speculation
he could just be busy and didnt notice it at all lol

maybe the moderators are ignoring it because their high up govt superiors told them to ignore it and"Hope it goes away"

lmao but thats just becuase i think ATS is controlled by the govt ...

HHAHAHA...enough conspiracy theory for you in one post ?
ok well just take it as a light hearted joke because thats all im doing
Joking LoL

anyways....let me find that time for you
when the object seems to appear in two places at once

ill edit post to put time in it

oh ya and guys/gals if you can get Stanton Friedman to take a look at this video im sure he would think its pretty neat
but i have this odd feeling he comes and looks at these threads every once in awhile*thats more speculation HaHa*

alrite; anyways; let me go find that time on the video for ya

ok the balloon theory is fine and dandy for the close up shots of the 'object spinning'

but ... theres a few questions we need answered

ive noticed thru the video theres alot of 'events' that remain an actual mystery to me...


K go thru a simple exercise with me turn on Trents video and watch these exact moments
i want your opinions

----3:10
this is when trent 'loses' the 'object'...he starts looking around for it
"Oh Sh*% where is it now"
he let the camera down for a moment ...and then pulled back up and didnt see it
if you look close you can still see it however *because it reflects light
he zooms in on the cloud to the RIGHT of the 'flashing object'
this is very important here
he then pans Downwards
Then at
----3:16-3:18
in the VERY TOP RIGHT CORNER/ RIght under the Cloud
The Thing appears
and gives us a very detailed and multi-frame appearance
keep This In Mind; because he then looks downward at the Windowseal/Bottom Clouds *3:24-3:26
then around 3:29 he Finds the "Object" agian Trent:"There it is"
Notice its Position...It is to the Left of the Cloud!!!
Remember at 3:16-3:18? It appeared Under the cloud.....????

*****This Could be camera misfocus illusion or whatnot- But Im thinking its not
the reason is because events like this occur elsewhere in this very same video

now
----4:02
Trent is now zoomed out
He starts kinda 'shaking the camera' a little bit, but thats ok because it doesnt explain what happens next
use the Clouds as Referance to Judge Movement of the "object"
----4:07-4:08
WHat The Hell was that???
if you PAUSE during 4:07 *You shouldnt see Anything at all...Nothing*
and pause during 4:08 and *You then see it in a totally new Position*
its in the Middle of the Screen **Note Cloud for Referance*
----4:09 it is now in the BOTTOM RIGHT LOL

Pause alot during this and go back and do agian...you Will See what im talking about !!

-----4:12
this is when the "spot on the window" pulls his camera out of focus if im not mistaken
***ive thought about this alot so im pretty sure This is the spot...Is it Trent?
since the "object" is no longer visable the camera auto-focus in on this spot Which is OVER the Cloud on the Left...
I think Trent then tries to take control and re-focus; notice the clouds
and the spot goes in and out of focus...
hes saying "what the f!""What The F!!"
but once he gets fully Zoomed out; at
----4:22-4:23
You will see the "spinning object" because it is making fast reflections of light
its in the Bottom Right area....No where near the "spot on the window" which is OVER the cloud on the Left

----4:24
on a pause frame here / the Spot on window, is still visable Overthe Cloud...
Notice...the "Object" moves CLoser to this cloud, But NOT over it
The Spot and Object are separate dots....
TOtal you will See Three Dots !
The object in Position A/ And Position B split second later
And you should still see the SPot on window/Over the Cloud on Left

Try Pausing it several Times to get a better idea of the frames here
you can pause/get at least 5 different frames out of One Second of Video
*by hand*

---4:25
You can see it Near the Cloud on left/Close to Middle of Screen
---4:26
It Now Immediantly appears to the Bottom Right of its Position in 4:25
LOL
---4:27
Now its Back to its original Position in 4:25 LOL !!

---4:28
It now Moves towards the RIght rather quickly...

---4:29
Trent zooms out but you can Still See the Object Clearly

---4:30
Its still there
---4:31
Still there
---4:33
Pause it there
WHERE IS IT??

---4:34
Oh THERE it is!

---4:41-4:43
Use the Clouds as Referance to determine movement/He shakes the camera but you can still see movement by using clouds as referance
THe object Moves from the RIght to the Left very quickly

If this was the spot on the window or his "spit on the window"
HOW DOes it Move in relation to the clouds like that???
Every single time ive ever spit on a window it ran DOwnwards ! LOL
It didnt MOve from side to side, and you can tell it moves because of the clouds movement in relation to the camera shaking
its there just look close

he then pulls down the camera and the video is over

Could we please Explain each and every one of these frames piece by piece
And Address the issue of the "Movement"
Remember if you use the clouds as referance you can tell despite his shaking the camera

Thanks for not banning me for rambling so much LOL
if i got anything wrong here ill edit the times...i think i got the seconds correct tho

What's up with your eyes in the video - r u some kinda hybrid or somethin??

LMAO, its called superNightshot (its a mutant thing lol)

I agree BF2 frikkin' rocks - whats your online tag?

my tag is =NIN=Reznor
naturaly


Muzzleflash, I'll study your times onthe video tonight when I get bact from work
(am gonna be late hehe)

Id have to agree with cabanaman, without a better quality up close view of the object it appears to be a simple mylar baloon being blown about by the wind, as for the reason it seemed to hover in one place it was more than likely grounded by a wire. Cool video tho

regards,

The fanatical

TrentReznor,

Cool - hope to see you on the BF2 field!

Well you seem to have a good attitude unlike lots o' folk here so I'll give you the benfit of the doubt.

(I will assume you are not hoaxin us here)

Thanks for the video - the more evidence we compile the stronger our case becomes!

i was eating and a fly flew past me and i thought ... hmm


maybe there was a fly or bee outside that was coming in towards the camera and the focus on it was poor so it caused those funny effects

i think someone mentioned something about a spider...maybe the spider was dangling in the wind

but it is still coincidental it all happened in relation to the "assumed balloon"
i dunno...just a thought

I did a rather quick frame-by-frame of the few seconds towards the end where it starts moving rather erratically. I find that part the most interesting, because up to that point, it can be written off as a ballon with some interesting wind conditions for the most part. From roughly 4:40 to 4:42/43, as muzzleflash pointed out though, it does start to move quite a bit, and even if it were a balloon the wind conditions for that would be just about worth studying. Here's what I got:

4:40:20
--disappears for frames 21 and 22
4:40:24
--movement starts roughly 45 deg bottom right
4:41:06
--disappears for frames 7 and 8
4:41:09
--reappears along same trajectory
4:41:15-17
--changes direction roughly 180 deg clockwise, fairly wide 'U' turn
4:42:00
--changes direction roughly 90 deg counter clockwise.

From that point on, it was too blurry for me to really make much of an observation of its movements. I'm using a video player from here:
www.area61.net...

I'd appreciate it if someone could try the same thing with a frame-by-frame capable viewer and either corraborate or dispute what I found.

Hi, muzzleflash

I painstakingly checked all the times and dissapointingly I can confirm all of the weird movements are from the spot on the window,

I even shot some more footage of the same spot against a cloud to see how it moves when i move and it does look very misleading.

I'm still not convinced its a simple balloon though

the teleport part that KiwiDave kindley posted was defantly the object.

Hi, fanatical_radical1974

simple mylar baloon being blown about by the wind

I think the statement "blown about by the wind" Is a little scetchy at best
It was not blowing all over the place or in a random wobbling or such.
It was rotating consistently almost with an eairy precission

as for the reason it seemed to hover in one place it was more than likely grounded by a wire

lmao, not at that height, and the object was receding from my location quite fast,
And just what would be the point of grounding a balloon so high up
that nobody (unless with aid of a 10"reflector) could read it, or see it for that matter. maybe a billbord for airline passingers? (joke)

thanx for your post

It may well be proved to be a balloon at some point, but let me tell you this,
I saw it when it was alot closer and It was HUGE

and had a blury(thats how I know it was huge) but elaborate shape, thats why I thought It was a helicopter doing spinning stunts at first.

Infact I'm not shure why it was blurry I only saw it for 2 seconds before i ran for the camera




[edit on 28-6-2005 by TrentReznor]

[edit on 28-6-2005 by TrentReznor]

Originally posted by TrentReznor
I can confirm all of the weird movements are from the spot on the window,

Ya mean the cloud?



Misfit

Ya mean the cloud?

LOL, I really do wish.


I mean I could be wrong, Im no video expert.
maybe at least 1 of the manuvers was the object,

can anybody collaborate on this and also say all the weird stuff was on the window?

Originally posted by TrentReznor
I mean I could be wrong, Im no video expert.
maybe at least 1 of the manuvers was the object,

can anybody collaborate on this and also say all the weird stuff was on the window?

I'm no video dude either, but I just don't see what I see as being struck off as spots on the window. Nor do I see it as a balloon, it's not sporadic enough (ie; this jumps around, balloons flutter almost like a butterfly).

Not to mention, the perspective I see in the clip, the zooms you did were just the thing UFO vids need, gives good perspective of possible heigth, distance, etc. Just based on what I see, if that were a balloon from the distance you were, it's friggen huge - of which, it's movements, imo, rule out big balloon - this moves with more agillity than a large bag of air could, heh.

You said you sent this to some UFO group, any idea how long they take about their proceedings?

Misfit

I bought a Mylar balloon filled it with helium, let it go, and filmed it. I downloaded it on my computer with the pinnacle software. I need to know how to upload the video here. I want to post it. I need help on how to do this.

Please give me this info, and I’ll post it as soon as I get of work. In about three hours.

You said you sent this to some UFO group, any idea how long they take about their proceedings?

no Idea, I havent heard from them